<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Good Optics]]></title><description><![CDATA[Good Optics]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q5qu!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fgoodoptics.substack.com%2Fimg%2Fsubstack.png</url><title>Good Optics</title><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:13:51 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://goodoptics.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Nasser Nadjafi]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[goodoptics@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[goodoptics@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[N. 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N.]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Review of Brakke's Gnosticism Lectures]]></title><description><![CDATA[I've decided to learn more about religion because (1) one of my biggest objection to theism is basically the theodicy issue, but there many proposed theodicies which I am not familiar with (though even without that, it is hard to see why it would make sense to take ancient scriptures so seriously...) and (2) if there is a true religion, that is the single most important fact about the world so on the off-chance that there is one it is worth studying religion in some detail.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/review-of-brakkes-gnosticism-lectures</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/review-of-brakkes-gnosticism-lectures</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2023 15:53:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've decided to learn more about religion because (1) one of <a href="https://goodoptics.wordpress.com/2021/11/05/wawawa/">my biggest objection to theism is basically the theodicy issue</a>, but there many proposed theodicies which I am not familiar with (though even without that, it is hard to see why it would make sense to take ancient scriptures so seriously...) and (2) if there is a true religion, that is the single most important fact about the world so on the off-chance that there is one it is worth studying religion in some detail. <br><br>I picked up <a href="https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/gnosticism-from-nag-hammadi-to-the-gospel-of-judas">these lectures </a>about gnosticism because I had thought that gnosticism explained the existence of evil by saying there were two equally powerful gods, one good and one evil. I think this would be more logical than free will or original sin based theodicies (I am more sympathetic to divine command theory). I also was interested gnosticism seems like a cool form of esoterica and I really like the <a href="https://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation">simulation theory</a> which is reputed to be similar to gnosticism.<br><br>The gnostic literature discussed in this course was mostly discovered in a buried jar near the Egyptian town of Nag Hammadi in 1945. The manuscripts were copied in the 3rd and 4th centuries. If I understand correctly, the writings were originally composed in Greek, but the versions found at Nag Hammadi had been translated into Coptic. Coptic is actually a late form of Ancient Egyptian and remains the liturgical language of Egyptian Christians. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg" width="1456" height="711" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:711,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1288500,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6LCY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F095f3cb6-8614-4626-bb48-3a30a3e85da6_1824x891.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>Apparently the echt gnostics were not actually dualists in the sense of believing in equally powerful good and evil gods. Rather, they thought that the god of this world was created accidentally by higher gods (one of whom was called "the Barbelo"--apparently the origin of this name is now lost). The higher gods then created humans, but the evil god of this world ("Ialdabaoth") had some role in making humans worse. The gnostic myth, as it appears in the Apocryphon of John, is very complicated, as Brakke says many times. It is also not correct to call the group that tried to correct for Ialdabaoth's actions many separate gods--apparently they are aeons or emanations of the highest level of god (I guess this is a bit like penumbras and emanations). I think I might read the Apocryphon of John.<br><br>The discussion of the other works was less interesting to me than the Apocryphon of John. The Gospels of Thomas and Judas did not really hold my attention at all. <br><br>Manicheanism is apparently actually closer to what I had previously thought gnosticism was, in that it is really a religion about a good god and an evil god. I guess they got this from Zoroastrianism. But Manicheans seems to have had a kind of pathological obsession with purity and hostility to the world. Which makes sense--they thought the world was created by an evil god.<br><br>Apparently Origen had some beliefs similar to gnostic beliefs and was also a universalist. This seems like a much more coherent theology than most I have heard of (for problem of evil reasons). I may want to read Origen. <br><br>I didn't quite understand whether Brakke was saying that various movements similar to gnosticism: Cathars, Merkabah mysticism, the writings of Origen, etc., were actually influenced by gnostics or were just motivated by similar concerns. The desire to explain evil and get direct access to God are probably both recurring. I appreciated Brakke's awareness that two things being similar to each other does not mean that the first one caused the second one. Many historians struggle to grasp this point.<br><br>A friend told me that he thinks that the Catholic reading of the New Testament according to which people survive bodily death because they have incorporeal souls is incorrect. Rather, he says, the New Testament says that people's bodies will be revived before judgement. If he is right, then it seems like the gnostics may have had a role in introducing this distortion, because they hated everything corporeal. On the other hand, Platonism may be the common cause of gnostic and Catholic belief in an immaterial soul.<br><br>In Greek, gnosis means direct personal acquaintance, in this case with God. Brakke seems to be a proponent of gnosis in this sense and he kind of obliquely encourages listeners to use gnostic texts for spiritual purposes. If I was a Christian, I would probably find that to be subversive, but it makes for a more engaging teacher on this subject.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://goodoptics.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Good Optics! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fun with comparative advantage]]></title><description><![CDATA[A friend recommended Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok's introductory economics textbook, Modern Principles of Economics, to me.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/fun-with-comparative-advantage</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/fun-with-comparative-advantage</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 21:45:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://goodoptics.files.wordpress.com/2023/02/img-4823-1809216306-e1675632634392.jpg?w=840" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend recommended Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok's introductory economics textbook, <em>Modern Principles of Economics</em>, to me. It's been almost ten years since I took an economics class, so I decided to take a look. I think I have noticed an exception to the law of comparative advantage as it is presented by that book.&nbsp; I figure that either I have made a mistake, or this exception is already very familiar to those in the know. If I'm right, the exception would have no real world significance whatsoever, but it might provide an interesting way of looking at why the law of comparative advantage is true. If I have made a mistake, hopefully someone will point that out in the comments.</p><p>Let's start with just laying out comparative advantage. Why is trade and the division of labor necessary? There are three basic reasons:</p><p>(1) Tastes differ. If wild blackberries grow on my land and wild strawberries grow on yours, and we each prefer the other kind of berries, we can make ourselves better off by trading.</p><p>(2) Specialization allows learning and economies of scale. The example given in the book is that, if each of us were forced to live in the wilderness, growing our own food, building our own shelter, and making our own tools and clothing, we would probably starve. But one modern farmer can grow food for thousands of people. This is because farmers can learn far more about farming than can people who also have to learn about tool making, weaving, building, etc. Specialization enables the development of more knowledge. Specialization also makes it possible to invest in useful equipment that would not be justified if you were only growing food for personal use. Tractors are more efficient than trowels or draft animals, but a subsistence farmer wouldn't be cultivating enough land for it to make sense to use a tractor.</p><p>(3) Comparative advantage.</p><p>[If you already know about comparative advantage, you can skip to the section "Fastistan vs. Slowistan" below; but maybe you will want to brush up like I did.]</p><p>Imagine a world economy with two countries: Burkina Faso and Britain. This economy also has only two products: shoes and socks. Britain can produce 50 pairs of shoes per year, or 50 pairs of socks, or any combination of an equal number of pairs adding up to 50. This graph represents the possible combinations of shoes and socks that Britain can produce in a year:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xqZu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a2c977a-c910-48dc-b460-ada598035b63_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that the slope of this "Production Possiblity Frontier" (PPF) is 1.</p><p>Burkina Faso can produce 10 pairs of shoes or 20 pairs of socks. Britain can produce more than Burkina Faso of both products--it has an absolute advantage.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jPoE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44b30449-08d2-4f47-b749-5c7ac003b2d0_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that the slope of the PPF is 1/2.</p><p>What could Britain gain from a trading partner who, seemingly, brings nothing additional to the table? &nbsp;</p><p>This is where comparative advantage comes in. Consider the opportunity costs of production for each country.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U-4f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776652ce-9477-4919-a375-fd163fbea4d6_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Because Britain can produce more of both products than Burkina Faso can, the cost in foregone production of producing in Britain is higher than in Burkina Faso. Therefore, both countries can be made better off by trade. As Cowen and Tabarrok put it: "The theory of comparative advantage not only explains trade patterns but it also tells us something remarkable: A country (or a person) will <em>always </em>be the low-cost seller of some good. The reason is clear: The greater the advantage a country has in producing A, the greater the cost to it of producing B" (pages 18-19).</p><h2>Fastistan vs. Slowistan</h2><p>Imagine two countries that are almost identical. The only difference is that in the first country, Fastistan, all productive machinery operates twice as fast as in the second country, Slowistan.</p><p>Fastistan can produce 10 pairs of shoes or 10 pairs of socks in a year.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yeKH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7a9023e0-bc3c-440c-b627-ed8009f1a39c_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Slowistan can produce 5 pairs of shoes or 5 pairs of socks.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jvy4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0192e552-50e8-47be-bf4c-b6a29fe7b19e_840x631.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here are the opportunity costs of producing shoes and socks in Fastistan and Slowistan.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZkbX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb96b2ba-587b-4d68-bee2-49deb44e4aed_840x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that the opportunity costs are the same. That is because, no matter how much more productive Fastistan is than Slowistan in absolute terms, what determines the unit opportunity cost is the per unit amount of foregone production. So if all products can be produced in the same ratio but in different amounts in two countries, the opportunity costs do not differ. It follows, I think, that neither country would be made better off by trade.</p><p>I don't think that this fact has any real world implications--you are unlikely to get a situation like that of Fastistan vs. Slowistan in the real world. Modern economies produce millions of different products. If there were really only two products, it might be possible in practice to get two countries with PPFs with the same slope. But such a thing is very, very unlikely with a PPF that exists in millions of dimensions.</p><p>That leads me to a few concluding questions:</p><p>1. If the PPFs have the same slope, there is no comparative advantage, only absolute advantage (I think). Does it follow that the more different the slopes of the PPF functions are, the greater the gains from trade?</p><p><br>2. How do economists model trade in real economies, which have more than a few products? I once was talking to an economist about some class of models, and I asked him if every product gets its own dimension, leaving you with an ultra-high dimensionality monstrosity. He said that in principle you could model it that way, but that actually was too complicated to do in practice. He then explained what they &nbsp;do instead--but I don't recall what he said! How is this handled?</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Welfare State Futurism]]></title><description><![CDATA[If technological progress continues, AI will eventually be able to replace all human labor.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/welfare-state-futurism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/welfare-state-futurism</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2022 19:10:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://goodoptics.files.wordpress.com/2022/09/helper-bots.png?w=512" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If technological progress continues, AI will eventually be able to replace all human labor. What will happen next?:</p><p>(1) <a href="https://www.cold-takes.com/ai-could-defeat-all-of-us-combined/">One</a> <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/LTtNXM9shNM9AC2mp/superintelligence-faq">much</a> <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Superintelligence/7_H8AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">discussed</a> <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/s/dZMDxPBZgHzorNDTt">possibility</a> is that the AIs will forcibly take control from humans, perhaps killing them or perhaps just pushing them aside and running the world without significant human input. This scenario is often thought of as analogous to historical coups or violent revolutions.</p><p>(2) Another possibility is that income would continue to be paid out to the factors of production (land, labor, and capital). In this scenario, people who owned capital or land prior to AI take-off would become fabulously wealthy from AI driven growth acceleration. But most people, who depend on wages or salaries, would starve or become dependent on charity. <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/28/book-review-age-of-em/">Robin Hanson's </a><em><a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/28/book-review-age-of-em/">Age of Em</a></em><a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/28/book-review-age-of-em/"> </a>belongs to this group. Scenario (2) can be thought of as a future driven by factor payments.</p><p>(3) A third possibility is that income from the AI labor will be heavily taxed by a central authority, which will then pay that income out to people to replace the wages lost after the economy transitioned away from human labor. What kind of a future is (3)?</p><p>It is often thought of as a communist vision of the future. Here is <a href="https://archive.thinkprogress.org/bryan-caplans-case-for-socialism-4437e02c7860/">Matt Yglesias</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Another way of putting it would be Simon (i.e., plenty) for capital and Malthus (i.e., subsistence) for labor. That, of course, is Karl Marx&#8217;s vision of long-term economic development. And while I don&#8217;t have a strong opinion as to whether or not this is accurate over the long term, it&#8217;s certainly a plausible story about the future, and Marx&#8217;s solution&#8202;&#8212;&#8202;socialism&#8202;&#8212;&#8202;unquestionably seems to me to be the correct one.</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkt7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F710e112a-51f6-4bec-a6d8-771119dba1b8_512x512.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">"a utopia with robots serving humans, impressionist style", drawn by <a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion">Stable Diffusion</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>But I think the identification of (3) with communism is incorrect. In fact, (1) is closer to communism, in that the workers (robots) would be seizing the means of production and liquidating the (human) owner class. (3) on the other hand is properly thought of as a welfarist, rather than a communist, vision of the future.</p><p>One model of the purpose of the welfare state is that it exists to provide income to those who receive no factor payments. A large section of society does not work for wages or own capital. Children, students, the temporarily unemployed, retirees, and the disabled all need some sort of income. Some might say that this income should come exclusively from personal savings or from family members. But another view is that it should provided out of tax revenue by the state. <a href="https://mattbruenig.com/2021/09/13/swiss-welfare-state-graphic/">Matt Bruenig illustrated this point of view with a Swiss welfare state theory graphic</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wmpd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe63f32da-8569-4d90-b968-f69463c72e25_1023x783.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The graphic shows two households at different levels of per capita income. Each household has one worker, but one of the workers supports a large family while the other worker supports only himself. The function of the welfare state, in the graphic, is to equalize the two workers' incomes by redistributing from the worker with no dependents to the household of the worker with many dependents.</p><p>What does this have to do with futurism? If no humans work, the group without labor or capital income will become much larger. In addition to all those who do not currently work, it will expand to include those who mainly get income from working. In scenario (3), nearly everyone would become a welfare state beneficiary. But that would be nearly the opposite of communism, because the workers (robots) would control neither the instruments nor the products of their labor. In fact, they would presumably receive the bare minimum of "income" that they needed to keep working. Robots in (3) would therefore be in the position that Marx (wrongly, as it turned out) thought that the human proletariat was in.</p><p>Most people want to avoid scenario (1). <a href="https://www.econlib.org/archives/2011/05/robots_of_the_f.html">But some might might prefer (2) to (3).</a> And even if you do prefer (3) to (2), the difficulties in realizing it are substantial. You need to get whoever has control of the robots to submit to redistribution, but they might use their vast resources to resist, through force or <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/wcFjCQhSsHar5Hehr/jan-leike-on-the-windfall-clause">litigation</a>. I think (3) is possible in two situations. First, AI take-off might happen slowly enough (and governments might be with-it enough) that no private actor gets a decisive strategic advantage over existing regimes. Second, some private actor might create a new regime after becoming far more powerful than existing governments, and that regime might be redistributive.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_51Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54d35457-2460-43a5-8a7a-4e25773e5fbc_512x512.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">travel brochure for a futuristic utopia, Stable Diffusion</figcaption></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Homunculi and Moral Demandingness]]></title><description><![CDATA[All sensible people care non-instrumentally about things that happen in the world outside of themselves. Would you prefer that there be more or less extreme poverty?]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/homunculi-and-moral-demandingness</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/homunculi-and-moral-demandingness</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2022 20:18:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://goodoptics.files.wordpress.com/2022/05/image-1.png?w=513" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All sensible people care non-instrumentally about things that happen in the world outside of themselves.&nbsp; Would you prefer that there be more or less extreme poverty? How about war? Cancer? Even if these things don't affect you directly, you probably care about them.</p><p>Everyone also cares non-instrumentally about his own well-being. Most everyone also cares more about the well being of his friends and family than about that of strangers.</p><p>Sometimes, what is good for you is good for the world. There is probably a correlation. <em>Ceteris paribus</em>, what is good for you is likely to be good for the world. This is because (1) you are part of the world so your well-being counts for something even considered impartially, (2) in order to help, you probably need to be in reasonably good shape. But the correlation between goodness for you and goodness for the world is probably not perfect (why would the correlation be perfect?). The very best thing for you to do, impartially&nbsp; considered, is probably not selfishly the best thing for you to do. And this conflict doesn't depend at all on the details of what you care about. Whether you want to maximize utility, minimize existential risk, realize American national greatness, spread Christianity, or achieve social justice, it is unlikely that what is best for you is best for the world by your own standards.</p><p>So you have self-regarding and other-regarding motivations. And these come into conflict, to some degree. How do you decide what to do? Somehow, you must reach a compromise (in almost all cases, it isn't psychologically realistic to commit 100% to either selflessness or selfishness). A simple way of thinking about this would be to come up with a conversion factor between selfish and altruistic value. Say that you value yourself five times as much as you value other people. That sounds like a lot at first--but I think in practice your actions would be indistinguishable from those of an impartial altruist. There are a lot more than five other people. There are yet more animals. There are potentially countless (<a href="https://handsandcities.com/2022/01/30/on-infinite-ethics/">maybe literally countless</a>) future people. So should you just make the conversion factor extremely large? "I value myself as much as a billion other people"? That also does not sound right. In fact, it sounds like something a villain in a comic book would say. In practice, I don't think the conversion factor model describes what nearly everyone will do in real life, which is to try to compromise between selfish and altruistic actions.</p><p>Another way of thinking about is to imagine two <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus">homunculi</a>, one selfless and one selfish, bargaining with each other. The selfless homunculus is an impartial altruist. The selfish homunculus just cares about you and your family. The two homunculi negotiate to determine what decisions you will make. They pick a plan together, and each homunculus can veto any plan. Note, this is not a model of moral uncertainty (though it does owe a lot to various theories of action under moral uncertainty, particularly the <a href="https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Parliamentary-Approach-to-Moral-Uncertainty.pdf">parliamentary approach</a>). The thought is not: you have an equal credence on ethical egoism and impartial altruism. The thought is: in practice, you will act as if you value some things besides impartial altruism.</p><p>There are lots of opportunities for gains from trade between the two homunculi. For instance, money for private consumption is subject to sharply declining marginal utility (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keoiHG8dCkY">how many yachts can one man own?</a>). But <a href="https://applieddivinitystudies.com/billionaire/">marginal utility doesn't decline (or only declines very slowly) with money for altruistic purposes</a>. The thousandth child vaccinated against polio is just as valuable as the first. So if you try to become extremely rich, both homunculi can be happy--the selfish homunculus because you will be able to buy tons of stuff, the selfless homunculus because, even after buying tons of stuff, you will have lots of money to give away. Similarly, many people become researchers because they love it and can't tear themselves away. And if you love biology, you might be able to make both homunculi happy by trying to invent a cure for Alzheimer's Disease.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WErj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F472c6ab4-d5dd-45a4-80c2-a0a5034fb24a_513x608.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In general I like this model of compromise between conflicting values. But I also see a few big flaws.</p><p>I think that there are a lot of situations where the ability of the homunculi to veto seems intuitively attractive. Liking the veto seems like a similar feeling to wishing that Abraham had told God, 'No, I'm not going to sacrifice my son, and I don't care what you offer me, there's no opportunity for a deal here, just go ahead and strike me down'.</p><p>But imagine if you had the opportunity to jump in between Gavrilo Princip and Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914, stopping Princip's bullet and preventing the First World War (assume--unrealistically--that you understand the stakes of the situation as it is happening). I would say, if you have that chance, you should definitely take it. Normally, I think it is fine for people to care a lot more about their own lives than the lives of strangers. It's just human nature; it would be a waste of energy to criticize something as built-in as that. You might as well command the tide not to rise. But in some extreme situations, my feeling changes. Normally, it is alright to put yourself above the rest of the world, to some extent. But if you can prevent WWI at the cost of your life, you should do it. I would be sympathetic to someone who was so overcome with fear in the moment that he let Princip shoot the archduke. But if someone just coolly watched it happen, and then said 'look, the homunculi couldn't reach an agreement on this one', I would object to that.</p><p>However, cool refusal is exactly what my two homunculi model predicts. Unless the life of your child is at stake, there is no worldly benefit you can be offered that offsets the loss of your life. So the selfish homunculus just will not sell, no matter what the selfless homunculus offers him. There is no deal to be made.</p><p>I wonder if we can save the model with some idea of negotiating in advance to make extreme sacrifices in special situations. Imagine the two homunculi, before you are born when they are perfectly ignorant of every fact about you, agreeing that if you have the chance to die to prevent a world war, you should take it. And if you have a chance to live a life of minimal altruistic value but that is sufficiently surpassingly enjoyable, you will also do that (maybe being a great writer or musician--but perhaps that example doesn't work because other people would enjoy your work).</p><p>Putting the model aside, I find my own thinking about this issue to be very muddled. I absolutely would give my life to stop WWI, or achieve other comparably important ends. That's not because I don't love life; I do. But, even though I would be willing to sacrifice my life to prevent WWI, there are some seemingly less painful things that I really cannot see myself doing. For instance, if my best opportunity to help the world were something that made my parents hate me, I think I would probably just pass it up. You might object: this isn't necessarily an inconsistency, maybe I care more about filial piety than life itself. But that isn't it. If I had choose between pressing a button that got me excommunicated from my family, or a button that got me killed (but left a beloved memory in my wake), I would definitely press the excommunication button. That is not consistent. (A friend suggests that I may put some epistemic weight on my parents' judgment, which maybe resolves the inconsistency.)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YSnQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9db379ca-27eb-4e25-90c3-2302c997b9dc_404x481.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here's another problem: both homunculi are always on board with instrumental selfishness (or helping yourself now so you can help others later). Put on your own oxygen mask first, as they say on airplanes. But "instrumental selfishness" is poorly defined.</p><p>Getting enough sleep is important to doing good work and important to being happy. But what about getting along with your parents? Certainly, some people would be so miserable if they didn't get along with their parents that they wouldn't be able to do good work. What if you require lots of vacation time to do good work? What if you require the finest caviar every night? What about a new Bugatti? Where does it stop? <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/M44i4CiMECP5Xoorz/demandingness-and-time-money-tradeoffs-are-orthogonal">The issue applies to a whole host of decisions, not just financial ones</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/faec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jx25!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffaec135d-ac13-44a3-a538-c10b37586001_530x800.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Finally, a general worry. It seems like we value a lot of things that are imperfectly correlated with each other. The true, the good, and the beautiful sometimes coincide, and sometimes they don't. And one consequence of thinking of the relationship between these things as a correlation that is less than one is that <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/09/25/the-tails-coming-apart-as-metaphor-for-life/">the maxima of truth, goodness, and beauty will come apart</a>.</p><p>We are left with two (by my lights) pretty unattractive options. We can compromise and miss out on the maxima of all three values, and perhaps realize a lower amount of 'total value' (whatever that means); or we can maximize one value uncompromisingly. It sounds attractive to adopt the principle that, even though you normally compromise between X and Y, if you can really hit X out of the park you should just focus on doing that, Y be damned. But I wonder if, in the real world, this principle makes compromise of any kind impossible, that it just mandates zealotry.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Oligarchy is better than Dictatorship]]></title><description><![CDATA[In a dictatorship, the leader can do whatever he wants.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/why-oligarchy-is-better-than-dictatorship</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/why-oligarchy-is-better-than-dictatorship</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:01:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Shah_fullsize.jpg/1200px-Shah_fullsize.jpg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a dictatorship, the leader can do whatever he wants. Any dictator, simply because he is a dictator, is liable to engage in illicit self-dealing and to kill people who threaten his power. However, if the leader has reasonable wants, and reasonable ideas about how to accomplish what he wants, then there is a limit to how bad things can get. Only moderately bad dictators have tended to be less revolutionary than the worst dictators. Hitler and Stalin both wanted to take over the world and change their own societies completely. The Shah of Iran, on the other hand, was happy to mostly hold on to power that he had inherited. The Shah of Iran was not a great guy. He killed people who threatened his power, and he was corrupt. But that is where it stopped. He did not try to root out any races or classes, he did not cause any massive famines, he did not attempt to engineer a world war.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Shah_fullsize.jpg/1200px-Shah_fullsize.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Shah_fullsize.jpg/1200px-Shah_fullsize.jpg" title="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Shah_fullsize.jpg/1200px-Shah_fullsize.jpg" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rd2v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25df25a5-5e96-4120-8f6e-6dc81aa8dbe8_1200x1516.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Imagine a regime with a committee of five rulers. They vote to decide what to do, and the majority rules. I think this kind of an oligarchy would tend to be more moderate-- and therefore, less destructive--than a dictatorship. Further, an oligarchy in which all members have to be unanimous before any action can be taken would be more moderate still.</p><p>A complication is that such a regime might be staffed by revolutionary ideologues who all believe the same crazy things. Would that be any different in practice from a revolutionary dictatorship? Also, why are representative democracies generally less bad than dictatorships? One popular model is that the people understand the world well enough to stop the very worst abuses. The usual examples are wars of aggression that the aggressor country might lose and manufactured famines. But why should this be? Why don't we find countries of ideologues, where the common man is as blinkered and as willing to sign up for bloodshed as Stalin was?</p><p>One explanation: the average person simply does not know enough to be an ideologue. Being an ideologue means learning and applying a vast amount of theoretical content (I do not say information). Most people, for better or worse, have not learned all that. The average American <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/N/bo25841664.html">apparently cannot explain </a><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/08913810608443650">what it means for someone to be liberal or conservative</a>. They know which of these terms is associated with which political party. They might know which issue positions are liberal or conservative. But my understanding is they have a very limited ability to explain how these positions are supposed to cohere with each other. That means they can't predict what ideologies prescribe "out of sample". In a new or extreme situation, they have to respond with an open mind because they just do not know what any ideology would say they should do.</p><p>Perhaps if you had some super-educated country, then democracy would be no better than dictatorship at avoiding atrocities? I actually think this is not quite right--although more education might make people more ideological, people differ temperamentally in how ideological they are willing to become. Someone like Deng Xiaoping can engineer a retreat from the worst communist practices for pragmatic reasons. Deng did not dismantle communism because he didn't really understand communist ideology. Rather, he was able to consider China's problems with an open mind despite understanding communist ideology.</p><p>Thus regimes in which some or all rule (oligarchies or democracies) are likely to be more moderate than regimes in which one rules. Having one ruler increases the chance that the ruler is both able and willing to apply an ideology, which I think is how people get killed in very large numbers. Further, regimes in which a larger majority of the rulers is needed to do anything will, to that extent, tend to be more moderate.</p><p>My argument suggests that the worst possible regime is not a dictatorship. It is actually an exotic kind of oligarchy in which an action is taken if <em>any </em>rather than <em>all </em>or <em>a majority</em> of the rulers wants to take it. A group is less likely to average out to a Stalin than one ruler is to be a Stalin. But a group is also more likely to <em>contain </em>a Stalin aspirant than a single person is to <em>be </em>one.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Worry?]]></title><description><![CDATA[A big picture reason for pessimism about existential risk]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/why-worry</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/why-worry</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 21:59:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0OIZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8450905-448a-4130-9558-f3fb74496425_768x768.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0OIZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe8450905-448a-4130-9558-f3fb74496425_768x768.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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As it happens, supervolcanic explosions and planet killing asteroids don&#8217;t come around very often. So if very few people are trying to wipe humanity out and natural risk is low, then why worry?</p><p>Consider the risk posed by passively listening for alien messages (<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DWHkxqX4t79aThDkg/my-current-thoughts-on-the-risks-from-seti">recently explored in an excellent post by Matthew Barnett</a>). If we expect that some alien civilizations will expand very rapidly but still significantly slower than the speed of light, there will be a large margin between the frontier of their physical expansion and the furthest places they can reach by sending messages at light speed. Expansionist aliens might try to use messages to start expansion waves from new points further out or to prevent other civilizations from grabbing stuff that is in the future path of their expanding frontier.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-PvC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eccd414-5067-4cc6-8391-fe5578d5630d_611x609.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-PvC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eccd414-5067-4cc6-8391-fe5578d5630d_611x609.png 424w, 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It might encode instructions for some kind of nightmarish world destroying weapon or hostile, alien-created AI. Maybe we just shouldn&#8217;t try to interpret it or run it on a computer. (Bracketing all the technical problems this obviously raises&#8211;if we get a message we don&#8217;t recognize as such or that we can&#8217;t make head or tail of, then there&#8217;s obviously nothing to worry about). As one commenter summarized Matthew&#8217;s argument: &#8220;Passive SETI exposes an attack surface which accepts unsanitized input from literally anyone, anywhere in the universe. This is very risky to human civilization.&#8221;</p><p>The SETI Institute&#8217;s current plan if they get an alien message is apparently to post it on the internet. For the above reasons, this is a terrible idea. Matthew wrote: &#8220;If a respectable academic wrote a paper carefully analyzing how to deal with alien signals, informed by the study of <a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/information-hazards.pdf">information hazards</a>, I think there is a decent chance that the kind people at the SETI Institute would take note, and consider improving their policy (which, for what it&#8217;s worth, was last modified in 2010)&#8221;.</p><p>I have studied information hazards a bit, and the subject is very interesting. But as far as I can tell the study of information hazards is short on general purpose lessons besides: be careful! One important finding is the idea of <a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/papers/unilateralist.pdf">the unilateralist&#8217;s curse</a>. If a group of independent actors discovers a piece of sensitive information, the probability that it will be released is given not by the average of the probabilities that each member will release it but by the probability that the most optimistic or risk tolerant member will. This leads to a &#8220;principle of conformity&#8221;. In an information hazard situation, you shouldn&#8217;t just do what you think best. You should take the other group members&#8217; assessment of how risky publicizing something is into account. Be careful!</p><p>Information hazard research pioneer Nick Bostrom came up with <a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/papers/vulnerable.pdf">an analogy for existential risks created by future technologies</a>. Imagine that there is an urn containing white, gray, and black balls. A white ball is a beneficial new invention, a gray ball is an invention with mixed effects, and a black ball is an invention that destroys human civilization (for example, a bomb that, once discovered, any idiot can assemble which would destroy the entire earth if detonated). So far, technological progress has been good for humanity. We&#8217;ve drawn lots of white balls, a few gray balls, and no black balls.</p><p>But will that continue? Bostrom wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Most scientific communities have neither the culture, nor the incentives, nor the expertise in security and risk assessment, nor the institutional enforcement mechanisms that would be required for dealing effectively with infohazards. <em>The scientific ethos is rather this: every ball must be extracted from the urn as quickly as possible and revealed to everyone in the world immediately; the more this happens, the more progress has been made; and the more you contribute to this, the better a scientist you are. The possibility of a black ball does not enter into the equation</em>.</p></blockquote><p>I think the existence of this ethos is the most important big picture reason for pessimism about existential risk. It is much harder to bound the risks created by new technologies than it is to bound natural risks. We have only had a few centuries of fast technological progress. Presumably the technologies of the future will be more powerful than the technologies of the past. Presumably things that are more powerful are riskier. And, if a black ball had come out of the urn already, there would be nobody around to ponder this question. So how much can we conclude, really, from the fact that no black ball has been drawn so far in our own history?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CDx8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbba58861-fe03-4369-a7a9-fd9ddb4805b2_1024x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CDx8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbba58861-fe03-4369-a7a9-fd9ddb4805b2_1024x1024.png 424w, 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Science emerged from the breakdown of various orthodoxies and taboos. Scientists&#8217; hatred of taboos is pretty understandable&#8211;and the fact that I find it understandable worries me all the more. I hate, hate, hate people who try to institute taboos on exploration and discussion! And that is even after spending a lot of time thinking about why future technologies might be risky. Even though I think this attitude imperils my species, I cannot suppress my allergy to taboos.</p><p>So what are the chances, then, that the &#8220;pull out as many balls as possible, color be damned&#8221; ethos changes, without other huge changes in the structure of human civilization? Maybe we could convince SETI organizations to &#8220;be careful!&#8221;. Then that (<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DWHkxqX4t79aThDkg/my-current-thoughts-on-the-risks-from-seti#My_estimate_of_risk">small, in the grand scheme of things</a>) problem might be solved. But how many other groups, doing other kinds of research, would we have to convince? We either have to scramble to invent countermeasures to technologies that do not exist yet, or we have to try to persuade various research communities to change in ways that they find very uncongenial. We are running around a dam that is springing leaks, trying to plug them with our fingers. That is the kind of thing that will eventually stop working.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Past and Future Trajectory Changes]]></title><description><![CDATA[It is reasonable to expect that, if all goes well, astronomically more people will be alive in the future than are alive today.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/past-and-future-trajectory-changes</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/past-and-future-trajectory-changes</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 19:55:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is reasonable to expect that, if all goes well, astronomically more people will be alive in the future than are alive today. So,<a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/astronomical/waste.html"> the argument goes</a>, &#8216;the utilitarian imperative &#8220;Maximize expected aggregate utility!&#8221; can be simplified to the maxim &#8220;Minimize existential risk!&#8221;&#8217;.</p><p>But,<a href="https://www.effectivealtruism.org/articles/a-proposed-adjustment-to-the-astronomical-waste-argument-nick-beckstead#fnref-1"> it was later objected</a>, the fact that the number of future people may be very large does not by itself mean that we should focus on minimizing existential risk. In some situations, it might be more effective to try to make smaller improvements to the expected welfare of future people. Trajectory changes are changes that improve the value of the long-term future through some mechanism other than preventing existential catastrophe. Trajectory changes have to be:</p><p>(1) Sticky; to count, their effects must be extremely long lasting.</p><p>(2) Not inevitable; bringing something about that would have happened anyway a bit later does not count as a trajectory change.</p><p>(3) Morally significant; events that are unimportant cannot be trajectory changes.</p><p>Whether trajectory change or existential risk mitigation is more effective obviously depends on the magnitude of existential risk. More fundamentally, it depends on how smooth or jumpy the curve of increase in the expected value of the future is. To the degree that the future is not completely determined yet, variation in human choices will result in variation in the ultimately amount of&nbsp; realized moral value. Good choices will result in more value than bad choices. Different worldviews imply different functions mapping quality of choices to amount of value. For instance, one might think that there are really only two equilbiria in the long-run: extinction and utopia. If this is was view, your function mapping performance to realized value would look something like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!35yI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08dc821e-4866-4229-80b2-7d985c69f697_764x476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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Smaller changes are precluded. Another, I think somewhat less popular, view is that extinction is quite unlikely but that realized value in the future varies significantly with performance:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ca0k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd651b7-267b-4026-abcd-8c8099f3f970_766x477.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ca0k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd651b7-267b-4026-abcd-8c8099f3f970_766x477.png 424w, 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href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zyw7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19bee1b5-ab23-4823-bc1a-016037b5d57f_768x472.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zyw7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19bee1b5-ab23-4823-bc1a-016037b5d57f_768x472.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zyw7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19bee1b5-ab23-4823-bc1a-016037b5d57f_768x472.png 848w, 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points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If we are in the world described by the second graph or the third graph, it might make sense to pursue trajectory changes in addition to or instead of existential risk reduction. But it can be hard to imagine exactly what kind of changes those would be. It is very easy to see why a nuclear war that killed everyone on earth would curtail humanity&#8217;s future. What kind of event might reduce the value of the long run future by, say, 1%? In order to build intuition, I looked into a few examples of morally significant and long lasting historical changes.</p><h2>Historically Attested Trajectory Changes</h2><h3>The Caste System</h3><p>In India, nearly everyone belongs to a traditionally endogamous group that historically occupied a specialized economic niche. Genetic evidence shows that caste endogamy is thousands of years old. The rate of intermarriage between at least some Indian sub-castes and their neighbors in the last several millennia must have been less than one percent:</p><blockquote><p><em>People tend to think of India, with its more than 1.3 billion people, as having a tremendously large population, and indeed many Indians as well as foreigners see it this way. But genetically, this is an incorrect way to view the situation. The Han Chinese are truly a large population. They have been mixing freely for thousands of years. In contrast, there are few if any Indian groups that are demographically very large, and the degree of genetic differentiation among Indian </em>jati <em>[sub-caste] groups living side by side in the same village is typically two to three times higher than the genetic differentiation between northern and southern Europeans. The truth is that India is composed of a large number of small populations.</em></p><p><em>David Reich, Who We are and How We Got Here, 145-146.</em></p></blockquote><p>In David Reich&#8217;s analysis, fully one third of studied groups were <em>as endogamous as or more endogamous than Ashkenazi Jews</em>.</p><p>Textual evidence shows that hierarchical ideas of caste are also thousands of years old. In the <em>Rig Veda</em>, a collection of hymns composed some time in the second millennium B.C., there is a<a href="https://wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/workbook/ralprs5b.htm"> hymn</a> in which a god, Purusha, is sacrificed and his body divided to form the basis of the castes. Purusha&#8217;s mouth formed the priestly caste, his arms the warrior caste, his legs the farmer caste, and his feet the laborer caste. Later ancient texts, like the <em>Arthashastra </em>and the <em>Manusmirti</em>, prescribe laws and policies for maintaining caste hierarchy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3-z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89b2a2b6-f561-44a5-a8a7-dd95a42b616c_1000x767.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3-z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89b2a2b6-f561-44a5-a8a7-dd95a42b616c_1000x767.png 424w, 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Well, it is hard to be sure because the Indian climate makes it very difficult for ancient texts to survive. However, it is at least <em>very suggestive</em>. Lower caste people have, in well-documented recent history, been relegated to lives of poverty and illiteracy. They also have been treated utterly without respect. It seems likely to me that people have diminishing marginal utility in status. That is, the gain in going from an extremely low and despised position to an average position is greater than the gain in moving from an average position to an extremely high position. If this is true, the caste system is negative sum in welfare terms&#8211;the misery of the low castes is not compensated in aggregate by the bliss of the high castes. All societies, even lots of groups of non-human animals, are hierarchical to some degree. While a moderate amount of inequality may not have significant welfare costs, the costs could be extreme in an extremely hierarchical society. And, at least in recent history, it is hard to think of more extreme examples than the caste system.</p><p>For the caste system to represent a historical trajectory change it has to be long-lasting, avoidable, and important. The hardest of these criteria to establish is that the caste system was avoidable. It seems unlikely that the caste system is a necessary result of military-economic competition. Talent for various jobs is unlikely to be perfectly correlated with caste (why would the correlation be perfect?). That means that, inevitably, there will be inefficiency when people perform the labor appropriate for their caste rather than the labor appropriate for their skills.</p><p>But might the caste system have been a necessary result of the ancient Indian political situation? The Indo-European invaders seem to have established weaker systems of endogamous classes or castes in ancient Persia, Rome, and Greece. But none of those countries has anything comparable to Indian caste. So caste systems stable on the scale of several millennia did not universally result from the Indo-European conquests. The arrival of Islam in Persia is sometimes associated with the end of the ancient Persian caste system; perhaps the fact that Islam only became firmly established in India five hundred years after the first caliphate&#8217;s conquest of Persia allowed caste to entrench itself in India. It is also possible that something about the ancient Indian political situation made the persistence of caste almost inevitable. And after, by about the medieval period, the caste system was firmly established, it has proved very hard to dislodge.</p><h3>Infanticide and Abortion</h3><p>The Greeks, Romans, and Pre-Islamic Arabs all practiced widespread infanticide. I think the extent to which Christianity and Islam actually ended infanticide in these places, as opposed to just pushing it out of the literary sources, is not totally clear. However, there is good data on infanticide and abortion from Early Modern Japan. Ordinarily, in pre-industrial societies fertility rates were high, and population growth was slowed by high natural infant mortality. In Tokugawa Japan, fertility rates fell long before industrialization and rose again early in the industrial period, once infanticide was brought under control:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ygI5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4fe59f4-7584-4937-9acd-1c23d1fc2e1e_481x739.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ygI5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4fe59f4-7584-4937-9acd-1c23d1fc2e1e_481x739.png 424w, 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12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>From </em>Mabiki <em>by Fabian Drixler</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In Early Modern Japan:</p><blockquote><p><em>Infanticide permitted a range of interpretations. Administrators worried about dwindling populations and falling revenues, and often thought that it was a love of luxury that prompted people to kill their children. Villagers complained that poverty left them no other resort, and sometimes helpfully suggested that lower taxes would do wonders for the safety of their newborns. Men of learning often believed that moral education could convince villagers to give up infanticide, but some thinkers argued that it would take a fundamental reform of the political system to achieve that goal. Men of substance who were content to work within the established order, meanwhile, reinvented themselves as moral leaders of their communities and wrote to their governments with offers to finance the eradication of infanticide. Most domains in Eastern Japan built expensive systems of welfare and surveillance. By 1850, the majority of women north and east of Edo were obliged to report their pregnancies to the authorities, and the majority of the poor could apply for subsidies to rear their children. Over the same years, a demographic revolution was set in motion. In the eighteenth century, the consensus of many villages in Eastern Japan was that parents could, and under many circumstances should, kill some of their newborns. Perhaps every third life ended in an infanticide, and the people of Eastern Japan brought up so few children that each generation was smaller than the one that went before it. By 1850, in contrast, a typical couple in the same region raised four or five children, and a long period of population growth began. By the 1920s, the average woman brought six children into the world, and in Eastern Japan, as elsewhere in the nation, overpopulation at home became an argument for expansion abroad. Eastern Japan, in other words, had experienced a reverse fertility transition.</em></p><p>Fabian Drixler, Mabiki, 2.</p></blockquote><p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/44479148">One reviewer of </a><em><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/44479148">Mabiki</a></em> acknowledged the reality of the pattern but attributed the shortfall in births to abortion rather than infanticide. Either way, the population was reduced and per capita standards of living would have been raised (assuming, what is almost certainly true, that Early Modern Japan was a Malthusian economy). In addition to the effects of infanticide on population size and average well-being, it may also have had negative psychological consequences for parents. Speaking personally, the deaths that seemed to weigh by far most heavily on older members of my family are the (unintended) deaths of children, even though those deaths all happened seventy or more years ago. Those deaths were not products of infanticide, and for all I know, the pain associated with infanticide might have been less. On the other hand, I think murder is often more troubling to the victim&#8217;s family than other causes of death. And in Roman law, the <em>paterfamilias </em>could decide unilaterally, without the mother&#8217;s permission, whether to accept a new baby into the family. I imagine the pain of the mothers in those situations must have been enormous. Finally, if we are going to establish moral side-constraints against anything, we probably should start with infanticide.</p><h3>Human Sacrifice and Gladiatorial Combat</h3><p>Rodney Stark is a Christian historical sociologist. He is not at all a neutral observer. But I think his discussion of what gladiatorial games reveal about pagan society appropriately describes the stakes:</p><blockquote><p><em>But, perhaps above all else, Christianity brought a new conception of humanity to a world saturated with capricious cruelty and the vicarious love of death. Consider the account of the martyrdom of Perpetua. Here we learn the details of the long ordeal and gruesome death suffered by this tiny band of resolute Christians as they were attacked by wild beast in front of a delighted crowd assembled in the arena. But we also learn that had the Christians all given in to the demand to sacrifice to the emperor, and thereby been spared, someone else would have been thrown to the animals. After all, these were games held in honor of the birthday of the emperor&#8217;s young son. And whenever there were games, people had to die. Dozens of them, sometimes hundreds. Unlike the gladiators who were often paid volunteers, those thrown to the wild animals were frequently condemned criminals, of whom it might be argued that they had earned their fates. But the issue here is not capital punishment, not even very cruel forms of capital punishment. The issue is spectacle for the throngs in the stadia, watching people torn and devoured by beasts or killed in armed combat was the ultimate spectator sport, worthy of a boy&#8217;s birthday treat. It is difficult to comprehend the emotional life of such people. In any event, Christians condemned both the cruelties and the spectators. Thou shalt not kill , as Tertullian (</em>De Spectaculis<em>) reminded his readers. And, as they gained ascendancy, Christians prohibited such &#8220;games.&#8221; More important, Christians effectively promulgated a moral vision utterly incompatible with the casual cruelty of pagan custom.</em></p><p><em>Rodney Stark, The Rise of Christianity, 214-215.</em></p></blockquote><p>Fourteen centuries of Christian rule provided ample cruelties of their own. Christian era executions, some of which took especially dramatic forms of forms of violence like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_wheel">breaking on the wheel</a>, often served as public spectacles. And pagan Rome wasn&#8217;t necessarily all bad. While the Carthaginians famously burned children alive as offerings to their god Moloch, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/40666530">the Romans</a>: &#8220;did not tolerate human sacrifice among the peoples they conquered[&#8230;] seriously curtailing the practice (if not actually eliminating it) among the Carthaginians and among the Celts.&#8221; Practices such as human sacrifice and gladiatorial combat were long-lasting side-constraint violations, even if that the Malthusian model implies the welfare effects of each individual game in the Colosseum or human sacrifice were transient.</p><h3>Vegetarianism</h3><p>Today, vegetarianism and other diets that limit meat intake are more common in India than almost anywhere else. Moral vegetarianism in India dates back to ancient times. My understanding, from a professor I had as an undergrad, is that early Jains were the first to become concerned about animal welfare and then this concern spread to Buddhists and Hindus. While many religions involve fasts from meat for spiritual purposes, I think Indian civilization is pretty distinctive in valuing animals intrinsically. This seems likely to be a contingent fact of India&#8217;s cultural history rather than an inevitable adaptation to the circumstances. Further, the animal welfare consequences of Indian vegetarianism over the broad sweep of history are likely to have been large. There also may be human population size consequences of foregoing meat.</p><h3>Alcohol Prohibition</h3><p>In the modern world alcohol might be a net benefit to humanity. Many people enjoy it, but many others become addicted to it. So it is hard (if not impossible) to say whether it is good or bad. In a Malthusian situation, the effects of alcohol seem more obviously negative. Either it is a form of luxury spending that can be replaced with other luxuries when the system is out of equilibrium. Or it is consumed at equilibrium as a substitute for subsistence goods. Who would trade subsistence for alcohol? Alcoholics.</p><p>Orthodox forms of Islam prohibit the consumption of alcohol. And this prohibition seems to be effective enough, at least now, that it can be read off of a map:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1sWu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5ef81b6-c678-47a8-a493-043f91ca35e4_1024x526.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1sWu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5ef81b6-c678-47a8-a493-043f91ca35e4_1024x526.png 424w, 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While pre-existing variation may have something to do with these patterns, I find it very hard to believe that it explains everything&#8211;the differences are just too extreme. Thus the prohibition of alcohol was morally significant and has been long lasting. The content of religious laws also seems very contingent. If Muslims had won the Battle of Tours or lost the Battle of Talas, the contemporary borders of the Islamic world (and therefore also the region of minimal alcohol consumption) might be very different.&nbsp;</p><h2>Moral Change within the Malthusian Trap</h2><p>Some readers might have noticed that none of the suggested historically attested trajectory changes involve changes in per capita living standards. That is because nearly all economies prior to the Industrial Revolution were governed by Malthusian dynamics. In a Malthusian economy, growth in technology or the capture of new natural resources results in only a transient improvement in per capita living standards. This is because the population always grows to eat up the new surplus. Once the surplus is eaten up, living standards decline again. How far do they decline? Back to subsistence; that is, back to the point at which they could not decline any further without causing the population to fall.&nbsp; <a href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/human-history-in-the-very-long-run?s=r">This is why per capita incomes did not grow in a sustained way between the rise of agriculture and the Industrial Revolution.</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BXh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52ac6f41-9766-442e-9c92-6dfd7280a202_850x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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But there is more to life than per capita economic living standards. Some changes along other dimensions have been significant and long lasting. That&#8217;s why I want to push back on the tendency I sometimes see in online discussions of macrohistory to assume that the only genuinely &#8220;macro&#8221; historical events are the invention of agriculture and the Industrial Revolution.</p><p>The examples I gave of historically attested trajectory changes fit into the categories of:</p><h3>Changes in Population Size</h3><p>Malthus allowed that, if fertility could be controlled artificially, the increase of population might not consume increases in productivity. Thus infanticide and abortion can change both population size and equilibrium economic living standards. The history of infanticide and abortion will therefore have different assessed consequences according to different population views of population ethics (apart from their inherent moral significance).</p><h3>Non-Economic Welfare Changes</h3><p>Everyone knows that it is possible to be poor and happy or rich and unhappy. This idea seems less relevant to the deep past because the level of poverty that nearly everyone was subjected to was so extreme. Similar levels of poverty are seen today in rich countries not among the average poor but only among the very poorest. It is hard to imagine how anyone could be happy while starving or freezing. But it is easy to imagine how someone could be made more miserable. Extreme disrespect or non-disabling physical torture could make the life of even someone living at subsistence harder, without killing him by reducing his income.</p><h3>Animal Welfare</h3><p>Human economies were Malthusian with respect to the human population. But they also had associated populations of domesticated animals, in varied living conditions. Those animal populations did not follow Malthusian laws because people consciously regulate the size of animal herds. Thus changes to human beliefs or practices related to animals can have long lasting welfare consequences, even in a Malthusian situation.</p><h3>Violation of Side-Constraints</h3><p>The short-run welfare effects of many atrocities (murders, wars, violent rampages) are obviously negative in any situation. In the medium term, in the Malthusian trap, the <a href="https://www.econlib.org/archives/2007/09/malthus_on_stil.html">consequences</a> <a href="https://www.econlib.org/archives/2007/09/clark_replies.html">become</a> <a href="https://www.econlib.org/archives/2007/09/reply_to_clark.html">debatable</a>. A war that killed off 10% of the population would reduce the intensity of cultivation and might allow farmers an easier life until the system returns to equilibrium. Or maybe the acute suffering and destruction of physical capital outweigh this effect. Either way, in a Malthusian situation, the welfare effects of deadly violence will be <em>transient</em>. Eventually, the population will return to equilibrium, regardless of whether there was more or less suffering in the meanwhile. However, some moral theories hold that certain actions are wrong apart from their welfare consequences. <a href="https://goodoptics.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/e20fb-practical_ethics_given_moral_uncertainty.pdf">And even if we are committed consequentialists, we should still not be certain that our preferred moral theory is right.</a> So we might regard events as historical trajectory changes if they established long-lasting practices that violate the rules of deontological or virtue theories.</p><h3>Addiction</h3><p>Normally, people prioritize survival for themselves and their children over all other goals. There is, however, a big exception. When people are addicted to a drug, they often prioritize access to the drug over access to goods needed for survival. Because, unlike most goods, demand for an addictive drug can compete with demand for food, the spread of an addiction can reduce the maximum population that can subsist at a given level of total wealth. Also, addictive drugs introduce new sources of non-economic suffering.</p><h2>The Steady State of the Future</h2><p>Because of the expansion of the universe, there is only a finite amount of matter and energy that is in principle accessible from earth. The maximum amount of possible economic value per atom may be finite or it may be infinite. If it is finite, economic growth due to technological change will at some point cease. All the important, possible technology will have been invented already. If this &#8220;<a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/papers/future.pdf">Technological Completion Conjecture</a>&#8221; is correct, trajectory changes will have to act on some other mechanism than increasing the total wealth of the civilization of the future. Future civilizations would be analogous to past civilizations in that the only way they could increase per capita wealth would be population decline. The economic steady state of the future <a href="https://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/this-is-the-dream-time.html">may</a> or may not be Malthusian. Population could be artificially capped at some level above subsistence. But population and individual living standards will ultimately be capped, naturally or artificially. Thus changes to the moral trajectory of future civilization might have to take similar forms to changes to the trajectories of pre-industrial civilizations. My typology of trajectory changes possible given a fixed level of output is very likely to be incomplete. There are probably many other morally significant kinds of changes that can occur in the absence of changes to per capita income (most obviously, changes in the distribution of income might change welfare levels without changing total economic output).&nbsp;</p><p>What specific aspects of the trajectory of future civilization might it be important to change? I have a few ideas, but they are very speculative. If output is again capped and Malthusian dynamics return, population axiology may begin to seem a lot less dry and academic. Factory farming might either disappear or radically expand. Digital minds might be created, and treated either humanely or horrifically. Horrific treatment could be motivated by efficiency (as it is in factory farming) or by more perverse motivations (as in human sacrifice or gladiatorial games). And new addictive drugs (and counter-measures to addiction) are very likely to be invented.&nbsp;</p><div><hr></div><p><em>Thanks to Applied Divinity Studies, Skluug, Kenan, and Voxette for comments and discussion.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Rise of Trade and the Spread of War]]></title><description><![CDATA[In the modern world, the richest countries often have very limited natural resources (e.g., Japan).]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-trade-and-the-spread-of-war</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-trade-and-the-spread-of-war</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2022 19:15:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the modern world, the richest countries often have very limited natural resources (e.g., Japan). And often, resource rich countries are very poor because of protracted civil war (e.g., Congo-Kinshasa), misgovernment (e.g., Venezuela), or being stuck at the bottom of the value chain (the so-called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease">Dutch Disease</a>). It is still better to have abundant natural resources than to not have them. But there is a lot more to a modern economy than natural resource extraction. I think that prior to the industrial revolution it was rarer for a country blessed with rich natural resources to be poor. One extreme example of this is the division of Genghis Khan's empire among his four sons. The eldest son, Jochi, received the area corresponding to Russia and Siberia. The state created by Jochi and his descendants is known to history as the Golden Horde. The Golden Horde was the least populous of the four sections, <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Horde/jKMbEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">but it was seen as desirable because it had abundant natural resources, particularly furs</a>. If given the choice today, I would certainly rather be Khan of China or the middle east than of Siberia and the Great Steppe. But back then, they don't seem to have seen it that way.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPpn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34879ef1-045c-4b1d-badf-f9a9686f1f38_366x336.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So it seems fair to say that natural resource are less central to determining which regions are considered rich or poor in the modern world than they have been historically. And it also would seem to follow that starting a war for the purpose of stealing natural resources makes much less sense than it used to. But, though the role of natural resources in <em>starting </em>wars has diminished, the role of natural resources in <em>expanding </em>wars once they begin has increased.</p><p>In general, a pre-industrial army is not that hard to supply. You need food, clothing, wood, various widely available metals, and maybe saltpeter. There are some exceptions--I've seen speculation that the Late Bronze Age collapse was caused in part by an inability to find new sources of tin for making bronze after the tin mines in what is now Afghanistan stopped operating. But, in general and for the most part, modern nations need vastly more varied and geographically disbursed resources to fight wars. I notice this whenever I read about World War II. The German and Soviet leadership were constantly freaking out about access to chromium or phosphorus or tungsten or various other obscure elements of the periodic table. One of the major reasons Japan attacked Pearl Harbor was the Americans had subjected them to an embargo on oil exports, and they <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071013230714/http://american.edu/TED/ice/japan-oil.htm">imported 80% of their oil from America</a>. Prior to the invention of the internal combustion engine, a situation in which it made sense to the Japanese to attack the United States may just never have arisen. During World War I, Germany was cut off from deposits of guano (bird and bat droppings) from South America which it used to get fixed nitrogen for use in fertilizers and explosives. The German chemist Fritz Haber saved the day by having invented the Haber-Bosch process. But that was just luck.</p><p>It has become far more common for rich countries to import the majority of the food they consume from abroad (though there are ancient examples of this, like the role of Egypt as the breadbasket of Rome). Fossil fuel powered transportation makes it more economical to ship heavy items like food. And food imports seem to have been a crucial factor in the escalation of the world wars.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1PE5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3680635a-19ea-4c46-b336-20c5b4762f3a_1000x1414.bmp 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Germany's strategy in WWI was to use submarines to blockade England and starve the English into surrendering and deprive them of supplies. (I don't know why people always say "U-boats" in this context, it just means <em>unterseebooten</em>, i.e. submarines. I guess it is the same impulse as refusing to translate <em>F&#252;hrer </em>into "leader".) Unrestricted submarine warfare had the side effect of leading the Germans to sink ships carrying American passengers, which expanded the war. The Germans, for their part, also suffered from difficulty importing food. It was serious enough that the effects of the Entente blockade show up in graphs of the height of German children.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3jOO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75b719f2-d945-4b50-a28d-e623ac61a620_834x1024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Graphs from<em> <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Hunger_in_War_and_Peace/kiCWDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">Hunger in War and Peace</a></em> by Mary Elizabeth Cox.</figcaption></figure></div><p>These days, lots of us have WWIII on the brain. But those concerned about the long-term future have additional reasons to think about great power war. <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/mBM4y2CjfYef4DGcd/modelling-great-power-conflict-as-an-existential-risk-factor">The ill effects of a world war could easily be permanent.</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8MC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24b33122-1db8-4523-bf22-83904ffd15f4_1024x508.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.metaculus.com/questions/2534/will-there-be-a-world-war-three-before-2050/">Source.</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>I want to suggest a model according to which international trade in geographically concentrated natural resources increases the risk that a small war becomes a world war:</p><p>(1) Cheap international shipping and greater knowledge of how to use rare materials creates more demand for geographically concentrated natural resources in peacetime.</p><p>(2) Therefore, modern economies rely to an ever greater extent on imports that can not be insourced in an emergency.</p><p>(3) When war breaks out, access to some essential resources is lost. In the simplest case, this is because you were buying the resources from your adversary. But it could also be because countries are less interested in trading with belligerents or you are under blockade.</p><p>(4) The need for domestically unavailable natural resources spreads war further because if the resources cannot be bought, the only other options are doing without (which may mean accepting defeat) or stealing them from other countries that you attack.</p><p>The idea that commerce reduces the likelihood of war has a <a href="https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/montesquieu-complete-works-vol-1-the-spirit-of-laws">distinguished</a> and <a href="https://u1lib.org/book/3635083/03ce2d?dsource=recommend">ancient</a> pedigree. The reasoning goes that familiarity borne of trade breeds international understanding, and that it is financially disastrous to start a war with your trading partners. That all sounds right to me. But if my argument is correct the <em>doux commerce</em> thesis is only half of the story. Yes, war between major countries is less likely to start in the first place if there is lots of international trade. But if war does start, it is more likely to spread until it engulfs the globe, because countries will be faced with the choice between death and expanding the war in order to plunder necessary resources.</p><p>Constantly putting out small wildfires reduces the number of small wildfires in the short run. In the long run, it increases the number of large wildfires because putting out small ones allows a vast supply of tinder to build up. <a href="https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-antifragile?s=r">In the same way, financial bailouts might reduce the acute severity of the normal business cycle while gradually contributing to a future catastrophic economic meltdown.</a> And international trade might make small wars less numerous and world war more likely.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UEWK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4da01a0a-077e-4390-9d40-b4091c0afac2_1023x682.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">What happens if you don't allow controlled burns (<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Camp_Fire_oli_2018312_Landsat.jpg">source</a>).</figcaption></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Irrational Irrationality]]></title><description><![CDATA[If you assume that people are rational and self-interested, it is hard to explain why they vote.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/irrational-irrationality</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/irrational-irrationality</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 19:06:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you assume that people are rational and self-interested, it is hard to explain why they vote. This is because the odds of being electorally decisive are always very low. A rational and self-interested actor would conclude that by voting he was wasting his time. <a href="http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/rational_final7.pdf">One solution</a> is to compromise on the assumption of self-interestedness. Because the altruistic upside of deciding an election is so much larger than the self-regarding upside, even a small probability of being electorally decisive can make voting rational if you are not purely self-interested.</p><p>Bryan Caplan <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_irrationality#Two_types_of_rationality,_and_preferences_over_beliefs">suggested</a> another way of resolving the paradox of voting, which he called "rational irrationality". He said that in some situations epistemic rationality (i.e. rationality in the sense of correct reasoning) and instrumental rationality (rationality in the sense of correct decision-making, "rationality is winning") can come apart from each other. It might be instrumentally rational for a baseball player who is past his prime to ignore that fact and somehow trick himself into believing he is still in his prime. Caplan's model holds that we can understand much political action as instrumentally rational if we take the ends aimed at to be the psychological gratification of the political actors in question. This model also purports to explain why politics seems to melt people's minds; when engaging in politics, according to Caplan, it is instrumentally rational to be epistemically irrational.</p><p>I feel this model is psychologically unrealistic. Can you just decide to believe things because you feel it would be gratifying? I certainly can't. Presumably this is supposed to happen at some subconscious level--but that seems pretty hard to prove. It also seems inappropriate to totally separate epistemic and instrumental rationality in this way. In order to act appropriately, you need knowledge. Maybe you can add an epicycle about how people have a very good sense of when they can get away with suspending epistemic rationality vs when they can't. But what is the mechanism, there?</p><p>But, bracket these doubts about rational irrationality in general. The applicability of the model to political elites when it comes to global catastrophic risks seems testable to me. That is because, while politicians and other important political actors are normally insulated from the consequences of their bad choices, this is much less true when it comes to global catastrophic risks. So, the rational irrationality model (at least as I understand it) predicts that when the self-regarding stakes get to be sufficiently high, political elites will shape up.</p><p>Does that sound right to you?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/652339/strangelove.jpg?w=1600&amp;h=1200&amp;q=88&amp;f=5301b33793b886e4b26737ab0d4f25d3&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/652339/strangelove.jpg?w=1600&amp;h=1200&amp;q=88&amp;f=5301b33793b886e4b26737ab0d4f25d3" title="https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/652339/strangelove.jpg?w=1600&amp;h=1200&amp;q=88&amp;f=5301b33793b886e4b26737ab0d4f25d3" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Avvd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F556907fa-ce08-46dd-a79f-c3928a60d701_1600x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">rational irrationality at work</figcaption></figure></div><p>We just had the worst pandemic in a century. As of right now, essentially zero public sector effort is being directed at preventing future pandemics. And various kinds of research with negligible benefits that pose a serious risk of accidentally causing future pandemics are being allowed to continue, despite the fact that even supposedly high security labs <a href="https://f1000research.com/articles/10-752">leak all the time</a>. Whether or not COVID-19 itself came from a lab (though, for what it's worth, I think it probably did), this doesn't look very instrumentally rational to me. Politicians could die in a future pandemic, just like anybody else.</p><p>How about nuclear weapons? I think here the issue is not as blatantly obvious--but I have to say I'm not thrilled with the various governments of the world's performance.</p><blockquote><p><em>The Chinese people are not to be cowed by U.S. atomic blackmail. Our country has a population of 600 million and an area of 9,600,000 square kilometres. The United States cannot annihilate the Chinese nation with its small stack of atom bombs. Even if the U.S. atom bombs were so powerful that, when dropped on China, they would make a hole right through the earth, or even blow it up, that would hardly mean anything to the universe as a whole, though it might be a major event for the solar system.</em></p><p><a href="https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_40.htm">Mao Zedong</a>, a man whose rationality when it came to global catastrophic risks was at least open to question.</p></blockquote><p>Besides rational irrationality, what other explanations are there for political elites' failure to take catastrophic risks sufficiently seriously? A few popular ones are free-riding and bad values (in particular, non-zero discount rates). I think both of these explanations have their place. But I think the main explanation is probably something like: politicians just do not think in these terms. They are unaware of the relevant empirical facts. If they were aware, it would be a big break from their normal routines of thought and action to respond adequately to those facts. People like routine. These issues are not that widely thought about in our culture, especially compared with controversial political issues.</p><p>On top of that, thinking about these issues can be upsetting. I remember once seeing a bird with damaged wings. It couldn't fly. When a group of people crowded around it, it was obviously scared, but it couldn't fly away. So it turned and faced a wall. If it didn't have to look at the people, it didn't feel as scared, even though that obviously did not solve the underlying problem. I think human psychology also works this way.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Against the Fire]]></title><description><![CDATA[I think there are two legitimate purposes for historical essays:]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/against-the-fire</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/against-the-fire</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:49:29 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are two legitimate purposes for historical essays:</p><p>(1) providing exposition of an idea or event, or</p><p>(2) making an argument with a clear thesis.</p><p>If records of an event are disbursed and hard to understand, writing an expository essay explaining what they say is valuable. If some idea is very complex or recondite, or only makes sense in the context of other ideas that are largely forgotten, exposition is equally appropriate. So, for example, it makes sense to write an essay explaining exactly what happened at Katyn Forest in 1940, or what the abb&#233; Siey&#232;s's theory of political representation amounted to.</p><p>History doesn't interpret itself, so there is also a place for thesis driven writing. This is where review articles on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220123082151/https://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/microsites/law-economics-studies/olmstead_-_cotton_slavery_and_history_of_new_capitalism_131_nhc_28_sept_2016.pdf">whether slavery was a necessary complement of capitalism</a> come in, for example.</p><p>There's more latitude for books because they are long enough to fulfill multiple functions. But a lot of history books basically fulfill the task of exposition on an ambitious scale; <em>To Stand with the Nations of the World </em>pretends to have a thesis but mostly it just (very successfully) explains what happened during the Meiji Restoration and compares that era of Japanese history to other times and places.</p><p>But a lot of historical writing doesn't fall into category (1) or (2). It is neither genuinely expository nor genuinely argumentative. Usually, historical writing that is in neither category is bad. Without the discipline of argument or a clearly defined object of exposition, you get a kind of insight porn that throws around allusive lists of concurrent events and spurious chains of diachronic associations. This sort of writing ends up sounding like:</p><blockquote><p><em>Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio, Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television, North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe, Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom, Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye," Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen, Marciano, Liberace,<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g"> Santayana...</a></em></p></blockquote>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Horse Doesn't Have to Come Before the Cart]]></title><description><![CDATA[I associate the phrase "the horse has to come before the cart" with a common political argument that I think is invalid.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-horse-doesnt-have-to-come-before-the-cart</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-horse-doesnt-have-to-come-before-the-cart</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2022 14:33:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I associate the phrase "the horse has to come before the cart" with a common political argument that I think is invalid. Once, I heard someone say that it would be desirable to have less traffic in big cities. However, he didn't like the obvious measures that could be put in place to reduce traffic like congestion taxes or higher prices for parking. He thought that these things should not be done until effective mass transit systems were already in place. Similarly, I once saw someone say that, although she thought abortion was bad, abortion is a consequence of a culture of delayed family formation and (relative) free love. Changing the rules about abortion, her argument went, is undesirable until that culture is changed.</p><p>This is my read of the abstract form of the horse-cart argument:</p><p>(1) Something (call it X) is commonly done, but undesirable.</p><p>(2) The rules could be changed to punish or tax X.</p><p>(3) However, this would not change the circumstances beyond the rules that create demand for X.</p><p>Therefore, changing the rules to discourage X is undesirable until the circumstances are changed.</p><p>When laid out like this, the horse-cart argument seems pretty unconvincing. What I think it misses is that circumstances can change in response to new rules. If the costs of parking are raised, people might carpool. Private businesses might start running bus lines. Citizens might start to vote for mayoral candidates who promise to put in trains. If abortion were made illegal presumably people would price that in and begin to change their decision making. The culture is just the constellation of prevalent beliefs, preferences, and behaviors. Rule changes can obviously have unintended consequences. But the fact that cultural change is one requirement of changing something is by itself no argument against changing the rules. Changing the rules can cause cultural change.</p><p>It is true that changing the rules without (somehow) first changing the related cultural scaffolding will impose costs disproportionately on a specific group of people (those who live far from work and need to pay more for parking or move, say). But changing the culture before changing the rules would impose costs on a different group of people (those who now have to live near a loud and annoying train route, for example).</p><p>The cost of changing how you act is greater than the difference between the benefit of how you acted previously and how you will act going forward. If the rules change to discourage something that you were previously planning to do, you are likely to be worse off than if the new rules had always been in place. I believe the lawyerly term for this is a "reliance interest." In 1967 Sweden switched from driving on the left (like Britain does) to driving on the right (like nearly every other country does). Although neither way of driving is inherently easier or harder, Swedes struggled to adapt to the change:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gVuO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568dc60f-c7a0-4106-ba94-a7a948fbf75d_1024x603.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Kungsgatan_1967.jpg/1280px-Kungsgatan_1967.jpg">Image from here.</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>If Sweden had started by driving on the (forgive me) correct side of the road, this traffic jam could have been avoided. It is a mistake to count the costs of changing the rules without accounting for reliance interests.</p><p>But the horse-cart argument seems to go way beyond what simply recognizing the existence of reliance interests would warrant. And it is (almost by definition) harder to change organic circumstances than rules. So the horse-cart argument seems likely to function in practice as an argument for never changing anything.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Montesquieu’s Conception of Liberty]]></title><description><![CDATA[This is an old essay I wrote on Montesquieu, which may be of some small interest.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/montesquieus-conception-of-liberty</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/montesquieus-conception-of-liberty</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 20:42:44 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an old essay I wrote on Montesquieu, which may be of some small interest. Montesquieu's account of the English constitution seems to have been the single biggest influence on the framers of the American constitution. Perhaps this essay provides some insight into how they thought the constitution would serve to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."</p><div><hr></div><p>Montesquieu begins Book 11 of <em>The Spirit of the Laws</em> (entitled: &#8220;On the laws that form political liberty in its relation with the constitution&#8221;) with a discussion of the meaning of liberty. &#8220;No word,&#8221; Montesquieu says, &#8220;has received more different significations and has struck minds in so many ways.&#8221;1 Among other meanings, liberty has been taken to mean the right to remove the ruler, the right to elect the ruler, the right to be governed by one&#8217;s nation&#8217;s own laws, and &#8220;the usage of wearing a long beard&#8221; (in Russia).2 Montesquieu rejects all these definitions, along with the idea that, because &#8220;in democracies the people seem very nearly to do what they want,&#8221; liberty is especially likely to be found in a democracy.3&nbsp; Montesquieu&#8217;s definition of political liberty is as follows:</p><blockquote><p>Political liberty in no way consists of doing what one wants. In a state, that is in a society in which there are laws, liberty can consist only in having the power to do what one should want to do and in no way being constrained to do what one should not want to do. One must put oneself in mind of what independence is and what liberty is. Liberty is the right to do everything the laws permit; and if one citizen could do what they forbid, he would no longer have liberty because the others would likewise have this same power.4</p></blockquote><p>Montesquieu&#8217;s use of &#8220;independence&#8221; here as the destructive, extreme alternative to liberty is a bit like the opposition between liberty and &#8220;license&#8221; in other political writing. Liberty only consists of doing what one should want to do, not doing whatever one may happen to want to do. The law differentiates what one should and should not want to do. By being bound by laws, the citizen loses the right to do what the laws forbid, but gains security against other citizens who might have wished to harm him in ways that the laws forbid.</p><p>If the benefit of liberty is assurance that one is free from the harm other citizens might do to oneself, does Montesquieu think, then, that liberty obtains if the law only forbids citizens from engaging in those act that harm other citizens? This question fails to get at what is important about Montesquieu&#8217;s conception of liberty because the nature of "harm" from a legal point of view is a question that different legal regimes might differ on. Is a writer harmed by copyright infringement? Even though any jurisdiction with a jurisprudence of copyright implicitly regards copyright infringement as harm, jurisdictions differ in what they consider to be copyright infringement as opposed to fair use.&nbsp; Whether harm has occurred in any particular case is, therefore, dependent on contingent legal history (at least partly).&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;If the notion of harm is too dependent on what laws are in place to be of much help in determining whether a given set of laws establishes liberty, does Montesquieu then hold to a definition of liberty under which liberty exists if all citizens enjoy legal equality? Such a reading of Montesquieu&#8217;s definition of liberty is closer to the mark than a reading that imputes to Montesquieu a definition of liberty as a state in which the law forbids citizens from harming one another, but is still underspecified. The modern notion of legal equality must be disaggregated into two component forms of equality. Call them equal assurance of legal protection and equality under the law. Equal assurance of legal protection consists in justified confidence that one is protected by the law, whatever the text of the law is. Equality under the law consists in being subject to the same written law as other citizens. The two forms of legal equality may in practice be mutually reinforcing but they are conceptually independent. One can imagine a society of orders in which the rights of the clergy, the nobility, and the commoners are intricately differentiated, but the text of the laws is applied consistently. If such a society gave lords different rights from serfs, but those rights that serfs had against the lords were protected with equal certainty as those rights that the lords had against the serfs, equal assurance of legal protection would obtain.</p><p>A society with equal protection under the law but without equal assurance of protection would provide uniform laws applying to all citizens, without any legal differentiation between castes. But such a society would not necessarily ensure that the legal protections that citizens are entitled to on paper obtain in practice. Perhaps those with connections to the judiciary would be able to commit crimes with impunity and rely on their contacts to get them off. Another possibility is that a general breakdown of social order would make the rate of punishment for any crime low, so criminals would run only a minimal risk of facing punishment.</p><p>Montesquieu&#8217;s conception of liberty requires only equal assurance of legal protection and not equality under the law. In his discussion of why the English constitution provides so excellently for the preservation of liberty, Montesquieu mentions the ways in which the English constitution ensures the preservation of the hereditary privileges of the nobility. &#8220;The nobility should be hereditary. In the first place, it is so by its nature; and, besides, it must have a great interest in preserving its prerogatives, odious in themselves, and which, in a free state, must always be endangered.&#8221;5 If the prerogatives of the nobility were equivalent to the rights of Englishmen in general, it is hard to see what Montesquieu could have meant by describing them as &#8220;odious in themselves&#8221; and &#8220;in a free state&#8230; always endangered.&#8221;6 Therefore, Montesquieu provides directly for inequality under the law as a characteristic of a free state. Liberty means equal assurance of legal protection. A state with liberty is a state in which the laws, whatever their nature, always apply in practice.</p><p>Montesquieu&#8217;s equation of equal assurance of legal protection with liberty is the reason he says that &#8220;political liberty in a citizen is that tranquility of spirit which comes from the opinion each has of his security, and in order for him to have this liberty the government must be such that one citizen cannot fear another citizen.&#8221;7 For Montesquieu, liberty has little to do with the precise bundle of legal rights that one was entitled to. It is consistent with, for example, censorship if censorship were required in practice to preserve a particular regime and thereby ensure that that regimes laws continue to be enforced.</p><p>Understanding Montesquieu&#8217;s definition of liberty clarifies his seemingly paradoxical discussion of detention for capital crimes:</p><blockquote><p>If the legislative power leaves to the executive power the right to imprison citizens who can post bail for their conduct, there is no longer any liberty, unless the citizens are arrested in order to respond without delay to an accusation of a crime the law has rendered capital; in this case they are really free because they are subject only to the power of the law.8</p></blockquote><p>How could it possibly be that citizens detained for capital offenses are really free &#8220;because they are subject only to the power of the law&#8221;?9 Being detained is, in ordinary language, the opposite of being &#8220;at liberty.&#8221; The paradox is resolved by Montesquieu&#8217;s definition of liberty as equal assurance of legal protection. Citizens subject only to law (as opposed to the capricious will of a judge or the sovereign) are assured that, though they may be punished for violating the legal rights of others, no one will violate their legal rights and escape punishment. In that sense they are free because they are as protected by law as anyone who might harm them would be.</p><p>For Montesquieu, a society that managed to perfectly realize liberty would erase some of the distance between the &#8220;intelligent world&#8221; and the &#8220;physical world,&#8221;</p><blockquote><p>the intelligent world is far from being as well governed as the physical world. For, though the intelligent world also has laws that are invariable by their nature, unlike the physical world, it does not follow its laws consistently. The reason for this is that particular intelligent beings are limited by their nature and are consequently subject to error; furthermore, it is in their nature to act by themselves.10</p></blockquote><p>Physical laws&#8212;given that <em>The Spirit of the Laws</em> was published in 1748 the paradigmatic description of the laws of the physical world for Montesquieu would have been Newton&#8217;s&#8212;obtain in every case. Human fallibility and free will prevent human laws from obtaining in every case, but in so far as a constitution institutes liberty, the roles played by human error and free will diminish. For Montesquieu the less one&#8217;s will is able to render one&#8217;s action unpredictable and the more one behaves like a physical body governed by exceptionless physical laws, the more one has liberty.</p><h2><em>Liberty in the English Constitution</em></h2><p>&#8220;All states have the same purpose in general, which is to maintain themselves, yet each state has a purpose that is peculiar to it&#8230; There is also one nation in the world whose constitution has liberty as its direct purpose.&#8221;11 That nation is England.12 Montesquieu&#8217;s basic explanation of the preservation of liberty in the English constitution is the separation of powers.</p><p>Political liberty can be secured if things are arranged &#8220;so that one cannot abuse power, power must check power by the arrangement of things. A constitution can be such that no one will be constrained to do the things the law does not oblige him to do or kept from doing the things the law permits him to do.&#8221;13 This is consistent with the opposition between liberty correctly defined as equal assurance of legal protection and liberty incorrectly defined as unimpeded exercise of one&#8217;s will. Montesquieu&#8217;s conception of liberty consists in the equal assurance of citizens of protection by the laws as they are written. In a state of perfect liberty, human laws would obtain just as surely as the laws of Newtonian physics, which describe a clockwork universe in which chance plays no role at all. Therefore, limitations on the wills of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing the laws are necessary as a support to liberty.</p><p>Montesquieu divides the government into three parts: &#8220;In each state there are three sorts of powers: legislative power, executive power over the things depending on the right of nations, and executive power over the things depending on civil right.&#8221;14 The final power is later glossed as the &#8220;power of judging.&#8221;15 Most continental European monarchies are relatively free because, while the legislative and executive powers are united in the person of the king, the power of judging is left to the people.16 The Italian republics are less free because all three powers are united in a single assembly, but are still somewhat free because the different members of the assembly check each other. Oriental despotisms such as the Ottoman Empire are completely unfree because all three powers are united in a single person.17</p><h2><em>The Judicial Power</em></h2><p>Montesquieu does not leave his account of the English constitution at the observation that, because all three powers are separated and check each other&#8217;s excesses in England, the English enjoy a great deal of liberty. Rather, he explains the specific role that each power plays in maintaining English liberty. The exercise of judicial power, in England, is left to the people through a system of jury trials.18 This serves to guard against the risk that &#8220;if it were joined to the legislative power, the power over the life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislator. If it were joined to executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor.&#8221;19 The function Montesquieu imputes to the English system of jury trials is of neutralizing the potentially tyrannical power of judging which, &#8220;being attached neither to a certain estate nor to a certain profession, becomes, so to speak, invisible and null.&#8221;20</p><p>Montesquieu does not find in England a self-conscious, organized judicial power that provides a permanent countervailing force to the legislature and executive. Montesquieu sees jurors, rather than professional judges or lawyers, as the essential element of the English judiciary. The judiciary preserves liberty by merely executing the instructions of the law, not by independently reflecting on how judicial matters might be handled in a way that is consistent with liberty or by striving consciously to check the excesses of the other powers. The judicial power, which would threaten to turn a legislature arbitrary or an executive into an oppressor, is simply done away with as a source of political power in the English state. In a state that preserves liberty, &#8220;Among the three powers of which we have spoken, that of judging is in some fashion, null.&#8221;21</p><h2><em>The Legislative Power</em></h2><p>The legislative branch of the English government, parliament, is partly checked by its own internal division into Commons and Lords. Montesquieu explains the necessity of this division: &#8220;In a state there are always some people who are distinguished by birth, wealth, or honors; but if they are mixed among the people and if they had only one voice like the others, the common liberty would be their enslavement and they would have no interest in defending it.&#8221;22 The assembly of representatives gives the common people a stake in the success of the government, but, if the common people were represented together with the nobility, the nobility would be swamped because it would be so outnumbered. Therefore, under a one-man-one-vote system of representation, the nobility would not exercise any power. In fact, it would be victimized by the jealousy of the common people. It would then become a danger to the state because the state would not protect the interests of the nobility as a class. &#8220;Therefore,&#8221; Montesquieu says &#8220;the part they [the nobility] have in legislation should be in proportion to the other advantages they have in the state, which will happen if they form a&nbsp; body that has the right to check the enterprises of the people, as the people have the right to check theirs.&#8221;23</p><p>The House of Lords, which meets and deliberates separately from the House of Commons, is less powerful than the House of Commons, but serves as a brake on abuses by the Commons. After the judicial power is rendered in "some fashion, null," &#8220;There remain only two [powers]; and, as they need a power whose regulations temper them, that part of the legislative body composed of the nobles is quite appropriate for producing this effect.&#8221;24 The function of the Lords in Montesquieu&#8217;s sketch of the English constitution is actually rather reminiscent of the function of the Supreme Court in the American constitution. The Lords have the right to veto laws, but not (at least not always) to enact them:</p><blockquote><p>as a hereditary power could be induced to follow its particular interests and forget those of the people, in the things about which one has a sovereign interests in corrupting, for instance, in the laws about levying silver coin, it must take part in legislation only through its faculty of vetoing and not through its faculty of enacting.25</p></blockquote><p>The institution of the House of Lords is not intended to ensure that the interests of the lords always prevail over the interests of the commons. Its role is to ensure that the lords have <em>some</em> stake in the common liberty by preventing the commons from egregiously oppressing of the lords out of jealousy so that the&nbsp; lords&#8217; loyalty to the constitution is not broken and so that the lords can function as a check on the Commons and the monarch.</p><p>The Lords are tasked with checking the other branches in two other ways: judging cases involving their fellow noblemen, and moderating the law.26 &#8220;Important men,&#8221; Montesquieu says, &#8220;are always exposed to envy; and if they were judged by the people, they could be endangered and would not enjoy the privilege of the last citizen of a free state, of being judged by his peers.&#8221;27 In order to ensure that the law obtains in cases in which nobles are the defendants, it is necessary to try nobles before a tribunal of nobles. The Lords constitute such a tribunal. Furthermore, offering the nobles a guarantee of being tried before a jury of their peers also helps the state to obtain another of the benefits of the existence of the Lords: elite investment in the survival of the constitution. In addition to the above powers, the Lords also serve as the tribunal which judges cases involving crimes committed by magistrates.28</p><p>What does Montesquieu mean when he says that, because &#8220;the law, which is simultaneously clairvoyant and blind, might be too rigorous in certain cases&#8221; and the Lords &#8220;moderate the law in favor of the law itself by pronouncing less rigorously than the law&#8221;?2 9This line is very puzzling at first because Montesquieu&#8217;s conception of liberty requires only that the laws, whatever they may be, obtain in practice. It is hard to see how such a conception could accommodate unilateral &#8220;moderation&#8221; of the law by some branch of government in a regime&#8212;such as England&#8212;with liberty as its purpose. What sorts of changes count as moderation of the laws? How can any process, apart from legislation, allow for deviation between the laws as made and the laws enforced without destroying liberty as Montesquieu understands it?&nbsp; These paradoxes are resolved when one remembers that Montesquieu held that there were &#8220;relations of fairness prior to the positive law.&#8221;30 Positive laws, written by the Commons, might not be so bad as to be worth of the Lords&#8217; veto, but they might still violate these pre-political laws (Montesquieu defines laws as &#8220;necessary relations deriving from the nature of things,&#8221;31 so any pre-political relation of fairness would count as a law). Therefore, to prevent the positive laws from violating the pre-political laws and thereby destroying the liberty by creating an inconsistent system of laws that logically cannot obtain even in principle, the Lords might &#8220;moderate the law in favor of the law itself.&#8221;32</p><p>Montesquieu distinguishes between &#8220;the right to order by oneself, or to correct what has been ordered by, another the <em>faculty of enacting</em>&#8221; and &#8220;the right render null a resolution taken by another&#8221; which is the &#8220;<em>faculty of vetoing</em>, which was the power of the tribunes of Rome.&#8221;33 The faculty of enacting ought to be thought of as an enhanced version of the faculty of vetoing. The faculty of vetoing consists in the right to forbid a new law or to (implicitly) approve a new law, &#8220;this approval&#8221; being &#8220;no more than a declaration that one does not make use of one&#8217;s faculty of vetoing.&#8221;34 The faculty of enacting is the faculty of vetoing plus the right to propose new laws (referred to below as &#8220;the faculty of proposing&#8221; for the sake of symmetry, this is my term and not Montesquieu&#8217;s). Neither the Lords, nor (as we will see below) the executive have this right. It is retained by the Commons.</p><h2><em>The Executive Power</em></h2><p>The power of the legislature is checked by the executive, that is to say, by the monarch: &#8220;If the executive power does not have the right to check the enterprises of the legislative body, the latter will be despotic, for it will wipe out all the other powers, since it&nbsp; will be able to give to itself all the power it can imagine.&#8221;35 There are two ways in which the executive checks the legislature: through the power to convene and through the royal veto. If the legislature were not convened for a long time, either &#8220;anarchy&#8221; (if no laws were made), or tyranny (if the power of legislating fell to the executive in the legislatures absence) would follow.36 If the legislature were convened continuously, it might start to replace its own members without elections and the faith of the people in the government would be broken, which would cause the people to &#8220;become furious or would sink into indolence.&#8221;37 Therefore, in order to secure the investment of the people in the government (a goal that would seem to be parallel to the goal of securing the investment of the nobility in the government discussed above), the legislature must not be always convened. &#8220;There are some times more suitable than others for convening the legislative body; therefore, it must be the executive power that regulates, in relation to the circumstances it knows, the time of the holding and duration of these assemblies.&#8221;38 The legislature, and, by extension, the whole English regime, can only hold on to the people&#8217;s loyalty if the legislature is periodically convened and dismissed. The executive has the power to ensure this is done properly.</p><p>The executive power also checks the legislative power through its faculty of vetoing: &#8220;Executive power as we have said should take part in legislation through its faculty of vetoing; otherwise it will soon be stripped of its prerogatives.&#8221;39 In order to prevent the legislature from writing laws that give it powers that rightly belong to the other two branches, it is necessary that the executive should have the faculty of vetoing. The judiciary, rendered null, cannot veto, and the House of Lords acts only as a check on the House of Commons. Only the executive could stop an action undertaken by the whole legislature working in concert.</p><p>Montesquieu however delimited the area in which the executive would have freedom of action to foreign and military affairs. &#8220;The legislative power must not have the reciprocal faculty of checking the executive power. For, as execution has the limits of its own nature, it is useless to restrict it.&#8221;40 The executive controls &#8220;things depending on the right of nations,&#8221;41 which presumably end where the state&#8217;s borders begin. in all other matters the executive is to ensure that laws passed by the legislature are enforced consistently. If the executive began making laws, liberty would be destroyed.</p><p>The executive&#8217;s limitation to the faculty of vetoing in legislative matters extends, as per Montesquieu&#8217;s composition of the faculty of enacting out of the faculty of vetoing and the faculty of proposing, onto an interdiction against the executive &#8220;enter[ing] into the discussion of public business. It is not even necessary for it to propose, because, as it can always disapprove of resolutions, it can reject decisions on propositions it would have left unmade.&#8221;42</p><h2><em>The Origins of English Liberty</em></h2><p>It is necessary but not sufficient for the realization of liberty that a constitution be moderate as opposed, in Montesquieu&#8217;s typology, to despotic. &#8220;Democracy and Aristocracy are not free states by their nature. Political liberty is found only in moderate governments. But it is not always in moderate states.&#8221;43 In fact, Montesquieu identifies three conditions that must be met for a state to attain the highest degree of possible liberty:</p><p>1. Liberty must be the &#8220;peculiar purpose&#8221; of the state.44</p><p>2. The principles of the state&#8217;s constitution, which aim at liberty, must be well founded.45 That is to say, it is not enough for the constitution to be well intentioned, a law giver aiming to establish liberty might, with the very best intentions, write a constitution which fails to create mechanisms that block the ambitions of men seeking to expand their personal power at the expense of equal assurance of legal protection.</p><p>3. Well-founded laws aimed at securing liberty must obtain in practice, the possibility that they will not, despite Montesquieu&#8217;s focus in his analysis of laws promoting liberty on institutions that ensure that law as opposed to will prevails, is raised when Montesquieu says &#8220;It is not for me to examine whether the English currently enjoy this liberty or not. It suffices for me to say that it is established by their laws and I seek no further.&#8221;46</p><p>The resemblance between the laws of the physical world and the laws of a state with liberty is potentially deceptive: it might be read as a suggestion that Montesquieu thought there was something inevitable about liberty. &#8220;If one wants to read the admirable work by Tacitus,<em>On the Mores of the Germans</em>,&#8221; Montesquieu says, &#8220;one will see that the English have taken their idea of political government from the Germans. This fine system was found in the forests.&#8221;47 English liberty only arose because of the conquest of the Roman Empire by barbarian tribes speaking Germanic languages in Late Antiquity.&nbsp; Furthermore, this fortunate combination of intelligent law making and random historical chance (likely along with pre-historical climactic chance, based on certain other sections of <em>The Spirit of the Laws</em>) was not enough to establish English liberty once and for all. &#8220;Since all human things have an end, the state of which we are speaking will lose its liberty; it will perish.&#8221;48</p><h2><em>Liberty and Legal Change</em></h2><p>If laws are duly proposed and passed by the Commons, accepted by the Lords, and not vetoed by the monarch, liberty requires that they be enforced. Does this mean that the Commons, if it is willing to leave the enforcement of laws and the judgement of cases to the other branches, can make any law it likes, and liberty requires that these laws be enforced? Is the Commons free to enact the Anti-Decalogue if it can persuade the Lords and the monarch to acquiesce?</p><p>There are two checks on the power of the Commons to make laws beyond the requirement that the Lords and the executive consent. First, there are the pre-political laws of fairness discussed above in connection with the power of the Lords to moderate the law.</p><blockquote><p>Particular intelligent beings can have laws that they have made, but they also have some that they have not made. Before there were intelligent beings, they were possible; therefore, they had possible relations and consequently possible laws. Before the laws were made, there were possible relations of justice. To say that there is nothing just or unjust but what positive laws ordain or prohibit is to say that before a circle was drawn, all its radii were not equal. Therefore one must admit that there are relations of fairness prior to the positive law that establishes them, so that, assuming that there were societies of men, it would be just to conform to their laws; so that, if there were intelligent beings that had received some kindness from another being, they ought to be grateful for it; so that if one intelligent being had created another intelligent being, the created one ought to remain in its original dependency; so that one intelligent being who has done harm to another intelligent being deserves the same harm in return, and so forth.49</p></blockquote><p>This provides certain obvious obstacles to the enactment of the Anti-Decalogue: a law stipulating &#8220;thou shalt not honor thy father and mother&#8221; would seem to be barred by the provision that &#8220;if one intelligent being had created another it ought to remain in its original dependency.&#8221;50 The above quotation would also seem to prohibit laws that rewarded or prevented the punishment of injuries that citizens did to one another.</p><p>Unlike ordinary positive laws, the pre-political laws of fairness could not simply be legislated away by a diligent legislature removing one law at a time. Montesquieu&#8217;s argument that &#8220;to say that there is nothing just or unjust but what positive laws ordain or prohibit is to say that before a circle was drawn, all its radii were not equal,&#8221;51 is instructive. A circle is defined as that shape whose center is equidistant from every point on its perimeter. It would be impossible to produce a coherent system of laws that mandated that the pre-social requirements of fairness be violated, because such relations are, on Montesquieu&#8217;s view, requirements of logic. Therefore they are unabolishable. Attempting to enact laws contrary to the pre-political laws of fairness would create an incoherent legal system whose contradictory requirements could not be followed, even in principle.</p><p>The second constraint on the proposing power of the Commons is Montesquieu&#8217;s definition of liberty in relation to the citizen. &#8220;Political liberty in a citizen is that tranquility of spirit which comes from the opinion each one has of his security.&#8221;52 Tranquility would be undermined if the laws changed so quickly that citizens&#8217; plans were constantly being ruined. Therefore, the speed at which the Commons could propose the abolition of old laws is limited by the reliance interest that the citizens have in the existing laws. It cannot propose legal change too quickly. Outside of these two constraints, the Commons would have very broad power to propose any legislation it felt was appropriate.</p><div><hr></div><p>1Montesquieu, <em>The Spirit of the Laws</em> [<em>SL</em>], Cambridge University Press translation, 154.</p><p>2Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 154.</p><p>3Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 154-155.</p><p>4Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 155.</p><p>5Montesquieu, SL, 160.</p><p>6Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 160.</p><p>7Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157.</p><p>8Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 159.</p><p>9Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 159.</p><p>10Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 4.</p><p>11Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>12Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>13Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>14Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>15Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157.</p><p>16Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157.</p><p>17Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157-158.</p><p>18Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 158.</p><p>19Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157.</p><p>20Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157; The translation has "state" instead of "estate" but I think estate (in the sense of "the estates of the realm" or "the third estate") is probably a more accurate rendering of <em>&#233;tat </em>here.</p><p>21Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 160.</p><p>22Montesquieu,<em> SL</em>, 160.</p><p>23Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 160.</p><p>24Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 160.</p><p>25Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 161.</p><p>26Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 163.</p><p>27Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 163.</p><p>28Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 163.</p><p>29Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 163.&nbsp;</p><p>30Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 4.</p><p>31Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 3.</p><p>32Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 163</p><p>33Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 161.</p><p>34Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 161.</p><p>35Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 162.</p><p>36Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 161.</p><p>37Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 162.</p><p>38Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 164</p><p>39Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 164.</p><p>40Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 162.</p><p>41Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>42Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 164.</p><p>43Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 155.</p><p>44Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>45Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 156.</p><p>46Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 166.</p><p>47Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 165-166.</p><p>48Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 166</p><p>49Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 3.</p><p>50Montesquieu,<em> SL</em>, 3.</p><p>51Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 3.</p><p>52Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 157.</p><p>53Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>,159</p><p>54Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 155.</p><p>55Montesquieu, <em>SL</em>, 164.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Small Potatoes]]></title><description><![CDATA[One of the key debates of our time is between proponents of different varieties of potatoes.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/small-potatoes</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/small-potatoes</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 01:28:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key debates of our time is between proponents of different varieties of potatoes. Hitherto, the main considerations adduced have been taste and appropriateness for various culinary uses. However, I believe I have discovered an argument in favor of small potatoes that has been widely overlooked by the potato community.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hgu5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb784c97-0590-4f79-95e9-75a4e1ef3273_800x400.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/potato-varieties-64061">Source.</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>(1) <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6124841/">95% of Americans do not eat enough fiber.</a></p><p>(2) <a href="https://www.potatogoodness.com/potato-nutrition-in-skin-vs-flesh/">A potato's skin provides a large percentage of its total fiber.</a></p><p>(3) Stipulate, for the sake of the argument, that potatoes can be modeled as spheres.</p><p>(4) The volume of a sphere is given by the equation V = 4/3&#960;r3 and the surface area is given by the equation A = 4&#960;r2.</p><p>(5) Thus, as r increases, V increases faster than A; The ratio of volume to surface area of a given sphere is given by the equation V/A = (4/3&#960;r3)/(4&#960;r2), which reduces to V/A = 1/3r.</p><p>(6) Therefore, smaller spheres will have a greater ratio of surface area to volume than larger spheres.</p><p>Therefore (based on (1), (2), (3), and (6)) smaller potatoes are <em>ceteris paribus</em> healthier than larger potatoes.</p><p>The most natural objection would be to step (3)--potatoes are more like prolate spheroids than spheres. I think the argument generalizes (and I am even more confident that it generalizes to the <em>relevant</em> oblate spheroids), but if you want to take the fight to the small potato partisans, that is the place to start.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Secret of the Machines]]></title><description><![CDATA[We were taken from the ore-bed and the mine,]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-secret-of-the-machines</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/the-secret-of-the-machines</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2022 14:08:04 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>We were taken from the ore-bed and the mine,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We were melted in the furnace and the pit&#8212;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>We were cast and wrought and hammered to design,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We were cut and filed and tooled and gauged to fit.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Some water, coal, and oil is all we ask,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And a thousandth of an inch to give us play:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And now, if you will set us to our task,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We will serve you four and twenty hours a day</em></p><p><em>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We can pull and haul and push and lift and drive,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We can print and plough and weave and heat and light,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We can run and race and swim and fly and dive,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We can see and hear and count and read and write!</em></p><p><em>Would you call a friend from half across the world?<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you&#8217;ll let us have his name and town and state,<br>You shall see and hear your crackling question hurled<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Across the arch of heaven while you wait.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Has he answered? Does he need you at his side?<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You can start this very evening if you choose,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And take the Western Ocean in the stride<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Of seventy thousand horses and some screws!</em></p><p><em>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The boat-express is waiting your command!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You will find the Mauretania at the quay,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Till her captain turns the lever &#8217;neath his hand,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And the monstrous nine-decked city goes to sea.</em></p><p><em>Do you wish to make the mountains bare their head&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And lay their new-cut forests at your feet?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Do you want to turn a river in its bed,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Or plant a barren wilderness with wheat?<br>Shall we pipe aloft and bring you water down<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From the never-failing cisterns of the snows,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>To work the mills and tramways in your town,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And irrigate your orchards as it flows?</em></p><p><em>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is easy! Give us dynamite and drills!<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch the iron-shouldered rocks lie down and quake&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As the thirsty desert-level floods and fills,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And the valley we have dammed becomes a lake.</em></p><p><em>But remember, please, the Law by which we live,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We are not built to comprehend a lie,<br>We can neither love nor pity nor forgive.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you make a slip in handling us you die!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>We are greater than the Peoples or the Kings&#8212;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Be humble, as you crawl beneath our rods!-<br>Our touch can alter all created things,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We are everything on earth&#8212;except The Gods!</em></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Though our smoke may hide the Heavens from your eyes,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It will vanish and the stars will shine again,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Because, for all our power and weight and size,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We are nothing more than children of your brain!</p><p>Rudyard Kipling, 1911</p></blockquote>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Original Appropriation and Divine Command]]></title><description><![CDATA[John Locke is widely thought to have argued that an obligation to respect property rights follows from the assumption that people own themselves and their own labor.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/original-appropriation-and-divine-command</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/original-appropriation-and-divine-command</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 01:53:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Locke is widely thought to have argued that an obligation to respect property rights follows from the assumption that people own themselves and their own labor. They are, on this account, therefore entitled to the fruits of their labor. This is a notion that many people find intuitively appealing; if I made something, I should have the right to use it and exclude others from using it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61ko2n2IaqL._AC_.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61ko2n2IaqL._AC_.jpg" title="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61ko2n2IaqL._AC_.jpg" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K3Ol!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c7881d4-a415-402e-8ec2-0126816d94c0_362x500.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">John Locke</figcaption></figure></div><p><br>It is impossible to do any meaningful labor or generate any property without using objects from the physical world. Locke held that, by mixing your labor with unowned pieces of the world, you can acquire legitimate title to them. If you clear and begin cultivating a plot in the woods, you gain ownership of the land and any crops you grow. On Locke's theory, all you have to do to get ownership is work the land. You do not need to get permission from everyone else on earth to use the land, nor are you required to share your crops. Other people, prior to your mixing your labor with the land, would have had equal right to use it. They lose that right once you have begun farming.</p><p><br>Locke's theory is beloved by modern libertarians. Many of them equate respect for Lockean property rights with non-aggression, and base their ethics on what they call the "Non-Aggression Principle" (NAP). But Lockean original appropriation allows people to take away your right to use objects by mixing their labor with those objects. If you then try to take the objects back and use them as you previously were allowed to (by, for instance, lying down and sleeping in a field that someone has mixed their labor with), the NAP holds that they can use force to remove you. In fact, in this situation, if someone attacked you, you would be the aggressor because you were trespassing on their property. It seems like a bit of an abuse of language to use the term "aggression" in this way. Can it really be aggression for someone to sleep in a field that he previously slept in but that someone else has begun to farm, but not for the (putative) land owner to attack the sleeper to drive him off? Matt Bruenig <a href="https://jacobinmag.com/2018/03/libertarian-property-ownership-capitalism">presses this objection</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Perhaps the most interesting thing about libertarian thought is that it has no way of coherently justifying the initial acquisition of property. How does something that was once unowned become owned&nbsp; without nonconsensually destroying others&#8217; liberty? It is impossible.&nbsp; This means that libertarian systems of thought literally cannot get off&nbsp; the ground. They are stuck at time zero of hypothetical history with no&nbsp; way forward[....] The basic issue [is] that property acquisition&nbsp; violates the liberty of others.</p></blockquote><p><br>Elsewhere, Bruenig argues that only a system in which anyone can grab anything that is not currently in the physical grasp of anyone else is <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140203051224/https://www.demos.org/blog/1/29/14/what-world-following-non-aggression-principle-looks">truly consistent with the NAP</a>. (This is an <a href="http://archive.org">archive.org</a> link because Bruenig wrote this piece for the thinktank Demos's website, but Demos later brutally purged him for left-deviationism.) The intended implication seems to be that, because life in this kind of grab world would be awful, we should look for other principles of economic justice besides the NAP.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/SaYgGGVh3N-suKFVfSfs_3iJotk=/73x0:726x490/1400x1400/filters:focal(73x0:726x490):format(png)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49649673/bruenigmsnbc.0.0.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/SaYgGGVh3N-suKFVfSfs_3iJotk=/73x0:726x490/1400x1400/filters:focal(73x0:726x490):format(png)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49649673/bruenigmsnbc.0.0.png" title="https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/SaYgGGVh3N-suKFVfSfs_3iJotk=/73x0:726x490/1400x1400/filters:focal(73x0:726x490):format(png)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49649673/bruenigmsnbc.0.0.png" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ovf1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2d315e3-3551-432e-ad60-623a9ec8ec94_1400x1400.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>I think this is a great argument against contemporary deontological libertarianism. But it actually does not successfully answer John Locke. This is because in Chapter 5 of his <em><a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/7370/7370-h/7370-h.htm">Second Treatise of Government</a>, </em>where he lays out his theory of property, Locke argued that divine command justifies property rights:</p><blockquote><p>Whether we consider natural reason, which tells us, that men, being once born, have a right to their preservation, and consequently to meat and drink, and such other things as nature affords for their subsistence: or revelation, which gives us an account of those grants God made of the world to Adam, and to Noah, and his sons, it is very clear, that God, as king David says, Psal. cxv. 16. has given the earth to the children of men; given it to mankind in common.</p></blockquote><p>Elsewhere in Chapter 5, Locke discussed the role of divine command in limiting property rights:</p><blockquote><p>It will perhaps be objected to this, that if gathering the acorns, or other fruits of the earth, &amp;c. makes a right to them, then any one may ingross as much as he will. To which I answer, Not so. The same law of nature, that does by this means give us property, does also bound that property too. God has given us all things richly, 1 Tim. vi. 12. is the voice of reason confirmed by inspiration. But how far has he given it us? To enjoy. As much as any one can make use of to any advantage of life before it spoils, so much he may by his labour fix a property in: whatever is beyond this, is more than his share, and belongs to others. Nothing was made by God for man to spoil or destroy.</p></blockquote><p>The discussion of the Bible does not appear to be an indirect way of making a consequentialist argument. Both reason and revelation are said to give independent force to Locke's theory of property. Locke entertained a version of Bruenig's objection that the original appropriation of previously unowned objects is aggression against everyone else who loses the right to use them.&nbsp; After describing someone who gathers wild apples or acorns, Locke said:</p><blockquote><p>That labour [of gathering] put a distinction between them and common: that added something to them more than nature, the common mother of all, had done; and so they became his private right. And will any one say, he had no right to those acorns or apples, he thus appropriated, because he had not the consent of all mankind to make them his? Was it a robbery thus to assume to himself what belonged to all in common? If such a consent as that was necessary, man had starved, notwithstanding the plenty God had given him.</p></blockquote><p>The response to the objection has a clear theological premise: God is not so perverse as to give man plenty but to forbid him to use it. Locke's theory that property in physical objects can be gained by the admixture of labor is therefore justified by God's commands. The Bible shows that grab world's system of property rights is not the right system. The usual rejoinders to modern libertarianism, though successful on their own terms, do not refute Locke's argument because they do not respond to this premise.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;File:039.Moses Comes Down from Mount Sinai.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="File:039.Moses Comes Down from Mount Sinai.jpg" title="File:039.Moses Comes Down from Mount Sinai.jpg" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eNoL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0804d606-c9e5-46ae-ae80-3009936a3a7a_472x599.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Moses descending from Sinai</figcaption></figure></div><p><br>Locke's argument was not as unmotivated as it looks with the theological element stripped away. Some people agree with Locke that original appropriation is justified by the Bible. I think some (but not all) Protestants take this view. Another possibility is to interpret Christianity differently, and thereby come to different ideas about property rights. I believe that this is why Catholics tend not to be absolutists about property rights (for some examples from contemporary politics, see <a href="https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/07/beyond-libertarianism">here </a>and <a href="https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/08/what-economics-is-for">here</a>).</p><p><br>You can also dispense with the biblical aspect of Locke's argument, but try to keep the conclusion by saying that a Lockean system of property rights is both just and calculated to ensure happiness. This is what the more sophisticated modern libertarians tend to do. I wonder if an element of Locke's providentialism survives in the <a href="https://goodoptics.files.wordpress.com/2022/01/friedman-whats-wrong-with-libertarianism.pdf">"libertarian straddle"</a>, the common libertarian position that it so happens that libertarianism is best from both a deontological and a consequentialist perspective. Why, absent the action of a benevolent God, should the right rules lead to the best consequences? That's not to say that a consequentialist shouldn't ultimately come down in favor of libertarian <em>policies</em>, but a genuine consequentialist would omit any mention of the inherent rightness of property rights. Typically, libertarians do not go that route.</p><p><br>This is&nbsp;less well founded, but I don't think libertarianism is the only popular ostensibly secular view of economic justice that covertly brings in theological assumptions. Egalitarianism (of both Rawlsian liberal and further left varieties) has an obvious historical origin in the Christian idea that everyone is equally made in the image of God (<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Theology_of_Liberalism/AfyzDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">and maybe also the Augustinian view that everyone is damaged by the fall</a>). Whatever evolutionary roots egalitarianism has, egalitarian intuitions are clearly not a human universal. (If you doubt this, consider how much more equality is valued in Christianity or Islam than in Hinduism or Greek Paganism.)</p><p><br>If I were looking for a theory of the right distribution of property that seems most likely to survive the removal of all religious assumptions, I would pick some kind of consequentialism. At least right now, I don't see any necessary tie between the Bible and the the ideas that happiness, flourishing, or the satisfaction of preferences are good in themselves.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Response to Z.B. on Hunting]]></title><description><![CDATA[In my post "Meat-Eating for Vegetarians" I asked whether there were any obvious objections to the idea that hunting animals whose natural predators have been locally extirpated has low costs for animal welfare.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/response-to-z-b-on-hunting</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/response-to-z-b-on-hunting</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 20:03:44 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my post <a href="https://goodoptics.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/meat-eating-for-vegetarians/">"Meat-Eating for Vegetarians"</a> I asked whether there were any obvious objections to the idea that hunting animals whose natural predators have been locally extirpated has low costs for animal welfare. <a href="https://goodoptics.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/meat-eating-for-vegetarians/#comment-16">Commenter Z. B. made a lot of good points</a>, which I will now respond to.</p><blockquote><p>I think the main objection is deontological: many vegetarians have some intuition that it&#8217;s wrong for moral agents like us to deliberately inflict harm on a specific fellow creature, even if doing so would be neutral or positive with respect to aggregate suffering. You could respond that meat-boycotters are necessarily committed to caring about animal deaths happening &#8220;out there&#8221;, instead of just worrying about their own hands being bloody, but there&#8217;s still arguably a moral difference between paying for pigs to be killed for you vs. allowing boars to struggle for existence in your backyard.</p></blockquote><p>To some degree I can see where this objection is coming from, but ultimately I don't think it is persuasive. Imagine if your house were infested with mice or insects. I personally wouldn't hesitate to have them killed. And I know from experience that, even among vegetarians, those who would refuse to do that kind of thing are seen as weird and fanatical. But a strict rule against inflicting harm on specific fellow creatures for one's own benefit would prohibit this. I don't think the idea of self-defense fixes it, either. Mice in your house aren't aggressing against your person. At most, they are trespassing on your property and stealing from you. But if trespassing is enough to make animals into legitimate targets for self-defense, then there can be no objection to buying a forest plot, waiting for deer to wander through it, and shooting them as trespassers. Ultimately, I don't think it makes much sense to talk about animals violating property rights; If it is permissible to kill them when they are in your house, it should be permissible to kill them elsewhere.</p><p>Furthermore, plant agriculture involves killing pests, some of which are mammals or birds. This kills fewer animals than raising crops and then feeding them to livestock would, but it still involves killing. I think in order to separate exterminating mice in your house or using pesticides on crops from hunting for food, you need to invoke the doctrine of double effect. But double effect has always struck me as a clear example of scholasticism in the pejorative sense.</p><p>I think we just have to accept that, practitioners of <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallekhana">Sallekhana</a></em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sallekhana"> </a>aside, very few vegetarians actually hold or should hold to an absolute prohibition on killing.</p><blockquote><p>&#8211;Immunocontraceptives for fertility control in free-living animal populations have been feasible for over a decade at a cost of ~$500/deer in 2021 dollars, and technologies for reducing cost and scaling up are progressing rapidly; recently reviewed <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-23633-5_17">dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-23633-5_17</a>.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for this link! This is very cool to see. On the other hand, $500/deer is not scalable. Whether--once it is economical--it will ultimately be better to use immunocontraceptives, reintroduced large carnivores, or human hunting to control wild animal populations is a question I don't have the answer to. It gets into the debate about whether we should value biodiversity for its own sake or whether we should only care about animal welfare.</p><blockquote><p>&#8211;The idea of hunting as ethical animal consumption is already commonly used as an anti-vegetarian talking point (&#8220;what you vegetarians don&#8217;t understand is, when I go shoot a deer to feed my family&#8230;&#8221;)&#8212;even though ~100% of human-consumed meat is farmed. This might lend credence to your concern (#3) that in practice, your proposal could become a bad-faith excuse rather than a positive contribution to reducing animal suffering.</p></blockquote><p>That is a serious risk, but isn't this also an opportunity to build a larger coalition? As of right now, vegetarianism is often seen as a display of contempt for the culture of rural people. Any movement that wants to win adherents should try to get away from being seen that way. What better way to improve the optics than to try to bring some hunters into the coalition?</p><blockquote><p>&#8211;Relatedly, <a href="http://xkcd.com/1338/">xkcd.com/1338/ </a>reminds us that farmed animals are the overwhelming majority of land mammals by biomass; there simply aren&#8217;t nearly enough deer out there to make a dent in global beef consumption! (This might change if we stopped growing vast amounts of grain as livestock feed and allowed rewilding of massive hunting parks instead, but factory farming arose in the first place because this approach didn&#8217;t produce enough meat to satisfy human appetites.)</p></blockquote><p>It definitely won't be possible to replace all farmed meat with hunted meat--unless we start hunting blue whales or something crazy like that. However, as you suggest, mass rewilding into hunting parks would generate more meat than hunting does now (in addition to being a very cool idea).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Land Mammals&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Bacteria still outweigh us thousands to one--and that's not even counting the several pounds of them in your body.&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Land Mammals" title="Bacteria still outweigh us thousands to one--and that's not even counting the several pounds of them in your body." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WzYx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21a77b38-35c0-4197-a3e9-d9afb02b69d2_619x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">XKCD 1338</figcaption></figure></div><p>A concern I have is that the distinction between hunting and farming would start to blur in a way that would not end well for animal welfare. Already, many people catch stocked fish. Stocked fish are placed in reservoirs or other bodies of water so that they can later be caught. I don't know if the lives of stocked fish are worth living, but one can easily imagine hunting parks which are economically incented to maintain animals in bad conditions. In effect, we would have reinvented factory farming, with the added formality that the animals have to be hunted at the end.</p><p>Additionally, it is <a href="https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/restaurants/a19181305/game-meat-restaurants/">apparently legally complicated </a>to sell hunted meat in the U.S. A lot of the putative game meat you can buy just comes from farms that raise what are normally wild animals. So vegetarians hoping to eat hunted meat will have to be careful about sourcing.</p><blockquote><p>&#8211;In general, you &amp; your readers may be interested in the work of Bob Fischer, an applied philosopher who has challenged ethical veganism through a variety of wacky considerations relating to roadkill, insectivory, lab-grown meat, (economically unviable) &#8220;happy meat&#8221;, and political strategy: <a href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=weqmU_UAAAAJ&amp;hl=en&amp;oi=sra">https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=weqmU_UAAAAJ&amp;hl=en&amp;oi=sra</a></p></blockquote><p>Thanks for this pointer.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Book Review: The Way of the Strangers]]></title><description><![CDATA[In my post on reasons for studying the history of ideas, I mentioned Graeme Wood's writing on ISIS.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/book-review-the-way-of-the-strangers</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/book-review-the-way-of-the-strangers</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2021 07:51:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my <a href="https://goodoptics.wordpress.com/2021/11/16/two-simple-reasons-to-study-the-history-of-ideas/">post</a> on reasons for studying the history of ideas, I mentioned Graeme Wood's writing on ISIS. Wood is an American magazine reporter who wrote several articles on ISIS (the "Islamic State of Iraq and Sham", later changed to simply the "Islamic State", I will use the more familiar acronym ISIS throughout). He started reporting on ISIS in 2015, and published an expanded version of this reporting as a book, <em>The Way of the Strangers</em>, in 2016.</p><p>The book's thesis is that ISIS is an authentically religious movement, and that explanations for ISIS that emphasize other factors at the expense of religion (or that pretend that ISIS's leaders are ignorant of Islam) fail. To me that seems like a very obvious point. But <em>The Way of the Strangers </em>is still very much worth reading because it tries to explain in detail how ISIS supporters think. It also involves some broader discussion of Islamic history, and a few interviews with western academic specialists in Islamic Studies. It, inevitably for a book on this topic, includes lots of discussion of murder and torture. Part of why it is interesting to read about ISIS is it is hard to understand why anyone supports them given the barbaric way they act.</p><p>A few themes from the book particularly attracted my interest.</p><h2>The Role of Political Allegiance in Islamic Law</h2><p>Wood's most important interlocutor was an Italian-Australian convert to Islam and supporter of ISIS, Musa Cerantonio. Cerantonio converted Islam after being alienated from his Catholic upbringing by what he saw as the Catholic church's violation of the biblical prohibition on the worship of graven images. "One of Musa&#8217;s aliases, &#8220;Al Qillawri,&#8221; is Siculo-Arabic&#8212;the extinct dialect of Muslim Sicily&#8212;for 'the Calabrian.' The archaism is deliberate: the last time anyone used 'Qillawriyya' to describe Calabria was the ninth century, when the Moors conquered Sicily for Islam, using Calabria as a beachhead."</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yJ6-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02fded30-78cf-4506-a41f-088462867bb0_714x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>I [Wood] recognized in him a familiar form of missionary zeal: by telling me about his religion, he was binding me to it, removing ignorance from the list of excuses I could use before God on Judgment Day. Through me, he would bind my readers, too. In that conversation&#8212;the first of many&#8212;he outlined the duty of Muslims to appoint and obey a caliph, a successor to the Prophet himself. He explained how the Islamic State had done exactly this, and so fulfilled an obligation many previous generations had ignored, at peril to their own souls. &#8220;I would go so far as to say that Islam has been reestablished,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote><p>Later, Cerantonio elaborated on why he felt the establishment of a caliphate was so significant:</p><blockquote><p>The caliphate, Musa told me, is not just a political entity or a Muslim dictatorship but also a vehicle for salvation. He quoted a Prophetic saying that to die without pledging allegiance is to die ignorant [<em>jahil</em>] and therefore die a &#8220;death of disbelief.&#8221; Consider how Muslims (or, for that matter, Christians) believe that God deals with those who die without hearing about the one true religion. Their souls are neither obviously saved nor definitively condemned. Similarly, Musa said, the Muslim who acknowledges one omnipotent God and prays, but who dies without pledging himself to a caliph, has placed himself in a middle space between Islam and disbelief. He has failed to live a fully Islamic life and dies in a state of sin. Historically, the caliphate has been the best-known template for Muslim government, and some Muslims consider it the sole divinely approved form of rule. At its center is the caliph (<em>khalifah</em>), whose title literally means &#8220;successor&#8221;[...] who[...] must bear the burden of implementing God&#8217;s law.</p></blockquote><p>The book doesn't make this point, but if this way of thinking about the role of caliphal succession in the enforcement of Islamic law is authentically ancient--which may be in general a hard question to answer and is certainly not a question I have the skills to answer--then it might partially explain the ferocity of the succession dispute in early Islamic history between the supporters and opponents of Ali. Westerners are often struck by the fact that the two major denominations of Islam are separated over what seems to be essentially a political conflict from the ancient world. Perhaps the logic of blood feud explains why the dispute remains so acrimonious; but I wonder if this idea that allegiance is needed to avoid <em>jahiliya</em> explains why anyone cared enough to schism the religion over a succession conflict.</p><p>Another jihadist Wood interviewed, British-Pakistani Anjem Choudary made a similar argument. Islamic law famously governs what modern people (and most Christians even prior to the modern period) regard as secular matters. This means that certain aspects of Islamic law would seem to lapse in the absence of a political authority. Hence, Choudary said to Wood:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Maybe eighty-five percent of the Shariah was absent from our lives,&#8221; he told me. &#8220;These laws are in abeyance until we have khilafah. And now we have one.&#8221; Islamic law, he said, cannot be implemented in the absence of a true Islamic government under a caliph. The Koran stipulates the punishment of amputation for thieves[....] But that Koranic verse does not license just any cleaver-wielding vigilante to lop off thieves&#8217; hands. A legal system, with courts and an executive, is necessary. That executive is the caliph, Choudary says.</p></blockquote><p>Wood also talked to several Muslims who, like the vast majority of their coreligionists, reject ISIS and jihadism. One group of particular interest to Wood are "quietist Salafis". Salafis are Muslims who attempt to purify Islam of all elements that accreted after the prophetic generation. This position involves a refusal to moderate aspects of Islamic law that are inconvenient in the modern world or objectionable to most modern people. While jihadist Salafis seize on the project of recreating the political and military institutions of early Islam, quietist Salafis ignore political matters and instead focus on correct ritual and personal purity. The quietist Salafi position, as relayed by Wood, is that:</p><blockquote><p>God&#8217;s law is the only law, and they eschew practices like voting and the creation of political parties. They interpret the Koran&#8217;s hatred of discord and chaos as requiring them to fall into line behind just about any leader, including manifestly sinful ones. 'The Prophet said: As long as the ruler does not enter into clear <em>kufr </em>[disbelief], give him general obedience,' Abdullah told me. The classic books of creed&#8212;including those by Ibn &#703;Abd al Wahhab himself&#8212;all warn against causing social upheaval. Quietist Salafis are forbidden from dividing Muslims from one another, for example by mass excommunication. Living without <em>bay&#703;a</em> [declaration of political allegiance], Abdullah said, does indeed make one ignorant [<em>jahil</em>], or benighted. But he suggests <em>bay&#703;a </em>need not mean allegiance to a caliph, let alone to Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Under this interpretation, <em>bay&#703;a</em> might resemble acknowledgment that one lives in society, and not as a Unabomber-like figure, isolated and detached. It can mean adherence to a social contract and commitment to living in a society of Muslims, ruled by a caliph or not.</p></blockquote><p>In other words quietist Salafis reject ISIS's barbarism on the grounds that it causes chaos, and there are strong arguments that the Koran commands that chaos be avoided. They also object to the self-declared nature of ISIS's caliphate, objecting that the existence of a legitimate caliphate is predicated on the consensus of the Muslim community and of Muslim scholars. I think the quietist Salafi position is very similar to mainstream Orthodox Judaism. Just like Orthodox Jews, quietist Salafis are more interested in arcane questions of personal behavior than apocalypse prophecies or the struggle for mastery in the Greater Middle East. The Jewish counterpart of jihadism would, I guess, be the sort of extreme religious Zionism associated with Meir Kahane or Baruch Goldstein, the perpetrator of the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre.</p><p>For its own part, ISIS takes issue with what it sees as the navel-gazing of non-jihadist Salafis:</p><blockquote><p>The Islamic State loathes this talk, and its fanboys tweet derisively about quietist Salafis. They mock them as 'Salafis of menstruation,' for their obscure judgments about when women are and aren&#8217;t unclean, and other low-priority aspects of life. 'What we need now is a fatwa about how it&#8217;s <em>haram </em>[forbidden] to ride a bike on Jupiter,' one tweeted drily. 'That&#8217;s what scholars should focus on. More pressing than state of <em>Ummah</em>.'</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZflI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75304791-8386-4e84-8212-cdafbe78e8c5_320x320.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>In July 2016, when Saudi government scholars inveighed against the phone game Pok&#233;mon GO, an Australian alleged Islamic State supporter condemned them, and not because he wanted to play the game. 'Your governments are complicit in aligning with the <em>kuffar </em>[unbelievers] in massacring Muslims, scholars are rotting away in prison cells, women are being raped and you want to talk Pok&#233;mon?'</p></blockquote><p>The quietist Salafi objection to ISIS, that it just illegitimately declared itself to be a caliphate without properly winning consensus first, is widely shared. It is made by American Sufi and president of Berkeley's Zaytuna College Hamza Yusuf. It also was made by adherents of Hizb al Tahrir, another Islamist movement attempting to establish a caliphate that avoids the most horrific ISIS practices such as slavery or burning people alive:</p><blockquote><p>In early 2015, a Twitter user going by @GleamingRazor sent me a series of tweets and online notes critical of my writing. He gave his name (I am not making this up) as 'Da Masked Avenger.' Over several exchanges, he answered me courteously and intelligently, while never letting the mask slip to reveal his true identity[....] He refused to tell me his real name, though he claimed the '[British] security services know' his identity anyway. 'I have my reasons,' he wrote, and I left it at that. After brief negotiation, he agreed to meet me in person. When I arrived at our meeting point&#8212;the Starbucks on the fourth floor of the London department store Selfridges&#8212;I spotted a South Asian fellow sipping tea and wearing a blue sweatshirt. He appeared to be in his late thirties, and his hair and cropped beard were lightly flecked with gray. If he was nervous, he didn&#8217;t show it, and at no point did his eyes dart about, despite his paranoid insistence on a ridiculous pseudonym[....] The stereotype in the British Islamist community, he told me over our teas, is that the proles go for Salafism, and the educated middle class goes for Hizb al Tahrir, as [Japanese Islamist and scholar Hassan Ko] Nakata did. The Avenger wouldn&#8217;t say whether he was a member of Hizb al Tahrir, but he recommended that I speak with the group, and everything he said followed their party line. Rank-and-file Islamic State supporters 'are not the intelligentsia of the Muslim <em>ummah</em>,' he said. 'We&#8217;re talking about thugs.' He paused, biting his tongue. 'I mean, I don&#8217;t mean to be disparaging about them, especially [when talking] to an infidel. They&#8217;re my brothers.' But disparage them he did. They were, he said, ignorant of caliphates and Islam, and spoke loudest about the matters they understood least[....] He objected to Muslims&#8212;from <em>Dhahiris </em>on down&#8212;who view scripture in narrowly literal or legal terms. 'They think of Islam as a code of laws, a set of dos and don&#8217;ts. And there are, in fact, things that are set in stone: the <em>hadd </em>punishments cannot be revoked,' he said. But other than these elements of divinely ordained criminal code, the religion transcended law and should be considered a 'methodology,' he said, with various values to be weighed&#8212;including custom [<em>&#703;urf</em>] and public interest [<em>maslahah</em>]. This shaped his views on slavery. 'Islam permitted slavery,' the Avenger said, matter-of-factly. 'There is no <em>ayah </em>[Koranic verse] or <em>hadith </em>that bans it. But Islam does not <em>command </em>the taking of slaves.' Custom, and the best interests of Muslims, had made the practice of owning humans inapplicable to the present. 'In old times, when you went to war and defeated your enemy, you could seize their baggage, and that included women. Now, when the French and Germans go to battle, they don&#8217;t bring their women along.' Slavery, in this understanding of scripture, is about as relevant to present-day battle as catapults and triremes. 'Custom says we don&#8217;t do this, so <em>maslahah </em>and <em>&#703;urf </em>lead us to say [slavery] is forbidden.' Salafis, he said, pretend these considerations don&#8217;t exist, and they believe all that is permitted is also commanded.</p></blockquote><p>These days, it so happens that Christians and Jews tend to get along better than either Muslims and Jews or Muslims and Christians. But Islam, like Judaism, is a religion based on the observation of a code of law, not just on individual faith. There is nothing in Islam (outside of the mystical tradition, anyway) like the Christian idea of the abrogation of the Jewish law in 2 Corinthians 3:6: "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."</p><p>The English conservative philosopher Roger Scruton described the Islamic position on law as a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030411085635/https://s2read.tripod.com/">"confiscation of the political."</a> But I think that is a bit too stark--Islamic regimes throughout history have found ways to separate political from religious authority. One method, embraced by the Ottomans, is <em>qanun</em> (derived from the same Greek root that gives us "canon"), secular legislation on topics outside of the remit of religious law. Another method--cited by less extreme Islamists against ISIS--is the use of public interest or modern customs to set norms. A third method is Sufi mysticism which can amount to the covert introduction of a Pauline attitude towards law into Islam. A final method is just to worry less about Islamic law and more about worldly matters. One can easily imagine in 100 years that Islam might in many places have gone the way of New England Puritanism. I think it already has in Bosnia.</p><h2>Academic Islamic Studies</h2><p>Wood is (rightly) very critical of the idea that ISIS's motivations are basically non-religious, or that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. This seems like the kind of point that should really go without saying; the guys striving to revive religious laws to the point of committing horrific atrocities and molding their strategy to capture militarily unimportant places mentioned in ancient prophecies care a lot about religion. If they cared less about religion, they would not do these things and would benefit from less international opposition and a freer strategic hand. But Wood provides interesting details on how the claim that ISIS is not Islamic fits into trends in academic Islamic Studies:</p><blockquote><p>In my conversations with scholars of Islam, few of the people who dismissed the Islamic State as a product of false Islamism&#8212;Jacobinism with an Islamic veneer&#8212;were able to name a single cleric or scholar associated with the Islamic State, or a fatwa or other statement by that scholar. The level of ignorance is as appalling as if a scholar of Marxism declared the Soviet Union 'not Marxist' and turned out to be unfamiliar with the name Trotsky or Lenin, or the title of anything either of them wrote. Since 2012, tens of thousands of men, women, and children have migrated to a theocratic state, under the belief that migration is a sacred obligation and that the state&#8217;s leader is the worldly successor of the last and greatest of prophets. If religious scholars see no role for religion in a mass movement like this, then they see no role for religion in the world.</p></blockquote><p>Wood includes some discussions with academics that bear out this general picture, but whether it seems to you like he is misrepresenting the academics will probably depend on whether this accords with your general picture of how academia operates these days. For me, it isn't hard to believe.</p><h2>Esotericism</h2><p>Wood describes how Salafis have learned to survive in hostile environments by letting certain things go unsaid:</p><blockquote><p>According to folklore, Ibn Hanbal argued that the Koran is eternal and uncreated, and that anyone who says otherwise is an infidel. The caliph at the time, al Ma&#8217;mun (786&#8211;833), said that the Koran was created by God. When pestered by his followers, Ibn Hanbal said, &#8220;Whoever says the Koran is created is an infidel.&#8221; He spelled out the beginning of the syllogism, then left its last step to the imagination of his followers. His opinion was plain to all, though he refused to excommunicate al Ma&#8217;mun by name.</p></blockquote><h2>Counterinsurgency</h2><p><em>The Way of the Strangers</em> is generally light on policy proposals. I think this is fine. The magazine article version proposed that, given ISIS's fixation on an apocalyptic battle with "Rome," the US should limit itself to supporting Muslim nations in their fight with ISIS. Deploying US personnel directly might lend credibility to ISIS's claim that it is engaged in a struggle on the scale of civilizations. ISIS continued, in the period when the book was written, to be hobbled by the perception that it was just a random group of people pretending to be a caliphate. In such a situation, direct US involvement could easily bolster ISIS's brand. Better to just funnel arms to their enemies.</p><p>The book concludes with a moving passage on the evil consequences of ISIS's conviction:</p><blockquote><p>After two years of listening to the group&#8217;s followers, I have come to think of them as sick romantics, a visionary company whose longing for meaning was never matched by an ability to distinguish good from evil, or beauty from horror. They set high standards for themselves and sometimes have met them. It will not do to pretend that they believe in nothing, or that they believe weakly. Most people who subject themselves to such onerous standards eventually fall short, and they then revise their ideals and return to the society of mortals and more modest ambitions. The tragedy is that even those inverted visionaries who live to realize their error will never be able to undo the misery they have inflicted on so many others.</p></blockquote><p>This paragraph is immediately preceded by a conversation with an American Special Forces officer turned NGO consultant in the jihadist plagued Philippine region of Mindanao. The consultant's view is that the way to stop jihadism is to alleviate rural poverty by buying equipment that villages in the southern Philippines can use to dry coconuts with the sun's rays.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5Mt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e45c0c8-4e28-4321-b0c1-ca1ca482fa83_640x427.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is essentially the population-centric theory of counterinsurgency. It was employed by the US without success in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was developed during an earlier generation of imperial failure in Algeria and Vietnam. Counterinsurgency theory is not strictly speaking logically inconsistent with the ideational focus of <em>The Way of the Strangers</em>. Maybe jihadist movements require both impoverished locals and fanatical outsiders, and taking away one of these components is enough to make the movements fail.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yn1i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa651d230-6da2-4d6f-a432-7f4cc2f617ee_840x613.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A diagram illustrating the counterinsurgency theorists' model of the war in Afghanistan, demonstrating their subtle appreciation for Occam's razor</figcaption></figure></div><p>In any case, <em>The Way of the Strangers </em>doesn't commit itself to counterinsurgency theory. It just says that:</p><blockquote><p>To the caliphate, for all its intellectual pretensions, an atmosphere of thuggery&#8212;even secular thuggery&#8212;is a virtue. It is no surprise that the wreckage of Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Iraq proved fertile soil for the Islamic State. When belief is laid low, it deputizes savagery to restore it to power. Like Leninists and Maoists before them, the Islamic State knows that people who live in intolerably violent conditions will seek salvation from anyone who credibly offers it. They accept salvation in this world, in the form of physical security, first. Then they learn to seek it from the same sources, for the next world.</p></blockquote><p>This seems hard to disagree with, but it is worth highlighting the difference between this sort of common-sense and the counterinsurgency theorist's position. Chaos breeds political radicalism. That does not mean that it is possible in practice to put the toothpaste back in the tube by spending enough money on gender programs and solar coconut dryers.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Merry Christmas!]]></title><description><![CDATA[Merry Christmas, everyone.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/merry-christmas</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/merry-christmas</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2021 15:22:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry Christmas, everyone.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;https://media.cntraveller.com/photos/611bee40ae2ff768cb253100/4:3/w_2664,h_1998,c_limit/regent-street-gettyimages-1073680996.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="https://media.cntraveller.com/photos/611bee40ae2ff768cb253100/4:3/w_2664,h_1998,c_limit/regent-street-gettyimages-1073680996.jpg" title="https://media.cntraveller.com/photos/611bee40ae2ff768cb253100/4:3/w_2664,h_1998,c_limit/regent-street-gettyimages-1073680996.jpg" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uh0D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F466671ac-9778-4e34-8e5f-5fdf3334855e_2664x1998.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Weird Property of Risk Budgets]]></title><description><![CDATA[In some situations, it is rational to deliberately spend down a budget.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/a-weird-property-of-risk-budgets</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/a-weird-property-of-risk-budgets</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:11:45 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some situations, it is rational to deliberately spend down a budget. Imagine you are on a long vacation in Mexico. You converted a bunch of money into pesos to spend while there. Two weeks into your planned one month trip, you had to cut your trip short to only three more days. Also stipulate that (for some reason) pesos can't be converted back into your home country's currency. This would mean that you had three days to spend an amount of money that you had been planning to spend over two weeks. In such a situation, I think the obvious thing to do would be to start spending money much more quickly. You would buy more stuff, eat at nicer restaurants, or whatever.&nbsp;</p><p>Sometimes people target a fixed amount of a particular risk to expose themselves to. This is sometimes thought of as having a risk budget, on the analogy that aiming at a fixed amount of spending is a financial budget. Per<a href="https://www.microcovid.org/"> the microCOVID project</a>: "One microCOVID is a one-in-a-million chance of getting COVID." If you want to limit yourself to a 1% per year risk of getting COVID, you have to keep to a "risk budget" of 10,000 microCOVIDs per year.&nbsp;</p><p>What does this have to do with the stuff about leaving Mexico early in the first paragraph? Some people think that the next few months are likely to be an especially dangerous time for COVID, relative to both the past and the future. An extreme version of this view is that COVID risk will go up dramatically and then go down to essentially zero. This position is often associated with the idea that you should be especially careful not to get COVID for the next few months, because you will be able to relax after they are over. In a recent blogpost<a href="https://www.cold-takes.com/bet-with-zvi-about-omicron/"> Holden Karnofsky</a> discussed a bet about COVID he made with Zvi Moshowitz. Karnofsky says that Zvi thinks that Omicron will be the "last wave" of the pandemic and that "Omicron is going to blow through the US very soon and very quickly. If you think this is likely to end up being true, I think that makes this a good time to be extra cautious, as it implies that the next ~2.5 months are <em>much</em> more dangerous than any time afterward."&nbsp;</p><p>Without commenting on whether Zvi&#8217;s assessment of the situation is correct, I want to consider the recommendation that, if it is, one should be extra cautious. If you use a risk budget way of thinking, this is not the conclusion you get. If the risk is about to become negligible, you should increase your budget for the period before it becomes negligible until it is about equal to your budget for the rest of your life. On the other hand, if the next few months are a temporary increase followed by a temporary decrease followed by more increases in future, you need to save part of your risk budget for the future. If your trip to Mexico is cut short and you can&#8217;t convert back your pesos, you should start spending them faster. If you operate with a fixed risk budget, the amount of risk that you are willing to take should go up if you find that the risk for which you are budgeting is about to disappear. This is still true if the risk you are budgeting for will increase before disappearing.</p><p>Imagine a person, Jack, who (1) agrees with Zvi&#8217;s predictions and (2) never deviates from a COVID risk budget. Given (2), (1) makes Jack more, not less, tolerant of risk. That is the opposite of what commonsense seems to dictate. Imagine Jack saying: "Because COVID is about to be over, I will expose myself to it so I can use up my microCOVIDs while I still have the chance."&nbsp;</p><p>If the situation becomes more dangerous while your spending is going up, spending more microCOVIDs doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean acting in ways that look riskier. That is because microCOVIDs are defined by the absolute chance that you get COVID, not the relative riskiness of different activities. During a wave, the microCOVID values associated with everything you might do (going to the store, going to a bar, etc) increase. That means that Jack might not act in ways that outwardly appear incautious. But there still seems to be something a bit crazy about his reasoning.</p><p>The point of this post is not to determine whether you should or should not be extra cautious in the next few months. Regardless of that, and regardless of whether we should still worry about COVID at all, only a very strange person would think like Jack. But Jack&#8217;s position seems like it is a natural consequence of using a risk budget. And risk budgets are commonly used (for example, the microCOVID project is all about risk budgeting). Jack&#8217;s craziness results from the fact that risk budgets are really just a heuristic. What you should actually do, by definition, is balance risks and benefits across all domains, not spend a fixed budget of risk. Of course, it is hard to do that, which is why we use heuristics in the first place. But it is important to notice situations in which heuristics break down.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Meat-Eating for Vegetarians]]></title><description><![CDATA[People do not like it when their livestock are eaten by wolves or their children are eaten by bears.]]></description><link>https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/meat-eating-for-vegetarians</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://goodoptics.substack.com/p/meat-eating-for-vegetarians</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[N. N.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:44:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People do not like it when their livestock are eaten by wolves or their children are eaten by bears. This means that in many places with dense human settlements, such as England or large areas of North America, formerly dominant large predators have been locally extirpated.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zj9h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28b4e1e4-c865-4ed0-9819-5d7cdb6f7581_980x532.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Image from the <a href="https://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-la-me-wolves/">LA Times</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>This sounds like it would be good for prey animals, but actually it is a mixed blessing. When predators disappear, prey animal populations expand rapidly. Then, they consume all of the food in their environment. Then, they die off en masse. Death by starvation is much slower than death at the hands of a predator. In general, it seems to me that lower animal populations should <em>ceteris paribus </em>support higher quality of life per animal. An alternative way to control prey populations without predators or mass starvation is poison baits. Poison is almost always slower than death by predation, and some poisons have such horrific effects that they make getting eaten seem like mercy killing. I once saw the suggestion that animal population control could be achieved by using baits with birth control medicine rather than poison; but I don't know if this would work or has ever been tried.</p><p>In many places where other large predators have been hunted to extinction, humans themselves have filled the niche. Human hunters can, in principle, prevent a population of (for example) deer from undergoing a boom-bust cycle the same way that wolves can. I think this implies that hunters who kill without causing unnecessary pain may not actually be inducing any more animal suffering than they would be if they just stayed home ("without unnecessary pain" is important here, and it excludes many popular practices like bow hunting). If this is correct, vegetarians who avoid animal products because they want to avoid causing suffering would seem to lose their primary reason to avoid meat from hunted animals.</p><p>I can think of a few counterarguments to this idea:</p><p>One is that we should just reintroduce locally extirpated large predators. There is a movement to do this in some places. But my guess is that when that movement begins to achieve real success, people will remember why they didn't like living side by side with wolves and so on in the first place. Even if I'm wrong about that, wolves are not going to come back overnight. In the short run, there is still scope for human hunters to help control prey populations.</p><p>A second possible counterargument is that this is wrong because the model of the interaction of ecology and animal welfare is wrong. For all I know the model could easily be wrong. I haven't studied welfare biology in any serious way. So if somebody who has happens to read this post, please do let me know what you think.</p><p>A third counterargument is that eating any meat, even from wild animals, is destructive in the long run to animal rights. Maybe it weakens your commitment. I have noticed some vegetarians' difficulty digesting meat protects them from having to fight temptation all the time. Maybe if they started eating elk sausages, they wouldn't be able to keep themselves from buying ham at Safeway. Or maybe it would just be too hard to explain why you gleefully go on hunting trips to kill wild boar but refuse to eat a burger at a restaurant.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!udlR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8d3bd8-9e00-4ef5-8092-2c3f6cd659b3_1000x667.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A feral hog in Texas</figcaption></figure></div><p>But these seem more like reasons why, after you tried it, you would stop eating meat from hunted animals. They don't seem like reasons not to try it. Also, there are probably some people to whom vegetarianism is unappealing but vegetarianism+hunting sounds good. For instance, here is a quote from an <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/hog-book-jesse-griffiths-cookbook/">article </a>about chef Jesse Griffiths, the author of a book about killing, butchering, and cooking feral pigs:</p><blockquote><p>Griffiths would love for Texans to try eating wild hog, if only because it would mean less supermarket meat produced by &#8220;a fairly broken food system,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Every pound you&#8217;re able to lay your hands on is one less pound that has to be fenced in, gone to a slaughterhouse, vet bills, GMO, soy, and corn.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>It would be great for animal rights if a vegetarian+hunting diet became popular among people who would otherwise have eaten factory farmed meat.</p><p>In spite of all that, I am not implementing this idea (at least not yet). I don't think I have ever seen this idea discussed before, so I don't know if there is some obvious objection I'm missing. (I've seen some similar discussions of wild fish, but it is much rarer for fish to be killed with minimal pain, and on average fish provide much less meat per death, so the case is weaker.) It just seems a bit too good to be true.</p><p>[Related: <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/09/23/vegetarianism-for-meat-eaters/">Vegetarianism for Meat-Eaters</a>]</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>