Our boss talk got Joe FIRED UP.

Hey guys,

I love the show but your discussion of workplace organizing/pay discussions rubbed me the wrong way. Even by the standards of the incredibly employer-rights happy US, discussing pay and other workplace concerns is legally protected activity.

These are rights the labor movement in the US fought tooth and nail and died for in the early part of the 20th century and even if y’all are now on the management side, these rules have improved the lives of everyone in the US and trampling them is a bad thing, even if the NLRB is mostly toothless these days.

I get your comments about outside political organizing, but that’s not at all what the Apple stuff is about. It is about pay and working conditions, whose getting shit on and what’s getting swept under the rug by the leadership. This is textbook labor relations stuff, and even if the NLRB will never enforce the law, siding with Apple leadership still feels kinda shitty.

Sorry to be the annoying pro-worker advocate, I just felt like y’all were skirting the line of literally advocating breaking employment law.

Thanks for the show and sorry this got a little ranty, but labor protections in the US are so weak, I gotta defend what little we have.
Joe