Dr. Abraham Erskine, played by Stanley Tucci in Captain America.

  • rbos@lemmy.caEnglish
    31·
    8 个月前

    I’ve heard this said about colonialism as well: “The first country the English colonized was their own”

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
        7·
        8 个月前

        I think it’s probably more about the rise of the absolute monarchy and conquest of Britain itself which coincided with the European discovery of the Americas but you could take it a lot of ways.

        Now that I think about it I’ve never seen the original context

        • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 个月前

          Britain hasn’t had an absolute monarchy since the Magna Carta, centuries before the discovery of the New World. Charles I tried to implement one and was beheaded for his trouble.

          • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
            1·
            8 个月前

            The English throughout history don’t think the Magna Carta was as important as Americans think it is. It is ironically more important to the American founding myths than the English. It was legally defunct by the 1400’s, in large part due to events like the War of the Roses.

            Death of Charles I: 1649

            Founding of Jamestown: 1607 (Guess the name of the English king that started really pushing for absolute monarchism in England during this period btw)

            Columbus’s voyage: 1492

    • jjagaimo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      55·
      8 个月前

      They originally had a minority of votes but were able to force through legislation that allowed them to do whatever they wanted

      • fylkenny@feddit.orgEnglish
        11·
        8 个月前

        They got enough votes, to get Hitler nominated as chancellor. Of courses it wasn’t an absolute majority but still enough. Doesn’t sound like an invasion to me. Or did maga and trump invade the USA? All good people there, then a small margin less than half the country, came from somewhere and supported trump, yeah sure. Hitler then as chancellor used existing legislation like Notstandsverordnungen to solidify and extend his power. Still not an invasion. Narratives like that put the blame of the rise of fascism on external forces, when it’s an internal process.

    • Rooskie91@discuss.onlineEnglish
      324·
      8 个月前

      Yupp, because all nations are monoliths, nuance doesn’t exist, and 347 million Americans all voted the exact same way with the exact same feelings.

      Stop acting like fascism is this easy thing to avoid, and give it the intense analysis it deserves so we can actually fucking figure out how to prevent it. Seriously, if the only thing you can contribute to the conversation is “well they voted for it,” please sit down so the adults can work on a real solution.

      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        8 个月前

        Those corporate stooges all won their primaries. America is fucked because Americans spent decades thinking that they could bring about change by listening to the right music and watching the right movies, and that everything else would just take care of itself.