I totally agree with you, I also avoid UPF. I’m just saying that there will always be choices that make a divergence from optimum health, and it will be seen by others as costly and perhaps even stupid, but that’s not a good enough reason for me to limit freedoms.

If corporations pushing products is an issue, regulate the companies not individuals

Couldn’t agree more. It’s just a shame that the UK has a long proud tradition of making big problems out of smaller problems.

As someone who hates smoking, never enjoyed it, it’s a terrible health choice etc. Let people do what they want.

I’m more than content with smoking being banned in various public areas. Do what you want as long as it’s not harming anyone else.

There will always be unhealthy choices, once smoking is banned and smoking disappears into history, cured meat will be top dog, then ultra-processed food or something.

As a Brit, Champion freedom for a change.

Eh, to replace it with their own slow creep to authoritarianism.

As a Brit, we’re on the same slippery slope as the USA, we’re just slower to innovate.

Bots

AOC is not suicidal

“We decided to leave those out of our first test, staring down the barrels of a minigun during neural training were putting our scientists off”

I think he’s supposed to suck it actually.

Just wanted to echo the vote with your wallet sentiment. It’s the only power we have!

I’m from the middle of the midlands. This is absolutely correct.

It isn’t clear because it doesn’t exist.

Ah brilliant! Case closed. Pack up everyone.

Look, there’s plenty of research indicating very negative effects of UPF on us, but it’s still an early field. The categorisation of UPF isn’t perfect no question, but that’s largely a result of the fact that, cooking processes combined with ingredients don’t make nice categories. We need ways to simplify the research for people who realistically aren’t going to look into the data, such as yourself.

If you’re really that opposed to the field, like your dismissive tone implies, then I’d advise not researching it, and eating what you like. But you aren’t going to erase the fact that obesity rises as exposure to UPF rises, that food preparation alters how our bodies process it, or that there are different health outcomes especially if you eat a lot of it. I’m afraid that’s science.

There isn’t a clear one because it’s not simple to define. If you follow the research, we can’t simply say it’s the ingredients used as the process itself can be bad. So it’s a hodge-podge of, “well watch out for this ingredient, but also ask them if they’ve put it through x and then we’ll know”.

It’s a whole area of research and it’s going to remain complicated, but we can’t give up on describing it at all.

I feel like we often forget this is the point. Do what you enjoy, get paid doing it, why does there need to be more?

Oooooh

So having 2 braincells should be a policy then!

That sounds… … precarious. High stakes for getting ketchup out of a glass bottle.

Take it away Ern!

I simply do not understand the sentiment that not being a total bastard is something celebrated and not expected or required.

It’s simple really. If you don’t give positive feedback, you’ve lost the major lever that can be used to get what you want.

Using negative feedback is a useful tool but it’ll never achieve the same outcomes if used by itself.

I think you’re actually describing a two part series

They also can’t “stay away in droves” they just aren’t interested.