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  • I have not heard of that album, but will definitely check it out

    It’s hard to appreciate now how successful okay computer was in the '90s. Everybody who watched MTV was being exposed to paranoid Android and karma Police. That’s 10s of millions of people… Maybe 100s of millions internationally. And I think that exposure captured a lot of fans who maybe would have otherwise not been exposed to Radiohead-people who were looking for a little bit more complexity and frankly weirdness in their music. So I think a bright spotlight was on the kid a release, which probably accounts for much of the acclaim (and criticism) the album received.


  • I’ll focus on a general discussion of Kid A and touch on the “legacy” topic… I’m not qualified to speak intelligently about modern music trends or the impact of digital processing.

    I was at the music store, at midnight, at Kid A’s release. OK Computer, their previous album, was a masterpiece. I couldn’t wait to hear what they did next. My first listen was promising. I really enjoyed, metal/prog music at the time… So i expected the album’s first listen to be dense, followed by a slow digestion resulting in ultimate appreciation. Over the next few days, i became obsessed with the album. However, in hindsight, i never liked Kid A more than either OK Computer, or their next “true” album (Amnesiac was essentially Kid A 2 in my mind), hail to the thief… But i do appreciate it as a representation of the band’s evolution, and would put it at #4 or 5 on my Radiohead tier list.

    But for alternative music lovers of the late 90s, the transition from rock focused to electronica focused wasn’t novel. For me, my first exposure to this trend was the Smashing Pumpkins. Adore (1998), the album that followed Mellon Collie, was a much bigger departure than Kid A was from OKC. Frankly, at the time Kid A struck me as a much more natural progression between albums. I remember a friend at the time (a DMB, beatles and Oasis stan) arguing that Kid A was revolutionary. Then, i thought he was being pretentious about it… But i liked Kid A so much better than Adore (i was more of a pumpkin head than a Radiohead fan then anyway) so i just nodded along. But several bands were occupying the same space already. Nine Inch Nails were a more raw version of what Radiohead was doing from the electronica pov. Zappa, Kraftwerk, King Crimson … each with their own levels of pretention, electronica, and complexity, had laid the groundwork years previously, for the trend Kid A represented. Concurrently with Kid A, Tool was transitioning from Aenima to Lateralus… I would argue a more objectively pretentious transition than what Radiohead was doing

    Overall, i think music, starting in the 60s were grappling with the technology and it’s effect on society… And by extension, the music. Bowie’s early stuff is just one example of that. Then, the Internet exploding in the 90s, meant bands no longer had to rely on charts and radioplay to develop a fan base outside of the home town. Therefore i believe the creative evolution of Radiohead (and tool, pumpkins, etc) was a reaction to this. I don’t think creative music has “peaked.”. It will continue to influence music for as long as humans have voices to sing.

    Anyone recommend any modern “masterpieces” with the same spirit as Kid A?





  • It’s a passive part of my active thought process. Sometimes it results from something I’m doing in the moment while stoned (i.e. listening to a conversation), other times it is just me pondering something that happened to me previously. My brain identifies new potential reasons and motivations for what I’m witnessing or thinking about. Most of the time i can dismiss an observation because logically it doesn’t matter or make sense… Presumably that’s what my subconscious is doing behind the scenes when I’m sober, filtering out the illogical. But every once in a while i consider something my subconscious would have ignored that seems logical. It’s particularly helpful in understanding the motivations or assumptions of others. I think i am better at reading people and understanding their point of view because of it.


  • For me it opens up possibilities that my sober brain doesn’t consider because my sober brain filters and edits things based on assumptions. So i sometimes miss details when sober because my subconscious brain dismissed those details as unimportant. Most of the time, that filtering process is a positive part of decision-making. I should be ignoring certain variables because knowledge and experience identified those details as a waste of time. However, on weed, i consider things i wouldn’t have considered because that filtering process is lessened. So most of my stoned thoughts are worthless, but every once in a while i realize something that i was missing because my brain was ignoring that important detail when sober. It’s great when I haven’t been able to figure out that day’s Wordle…or i realize why someone was pissed at me.