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  • China is different from the western world.

    Western corps have money in mind when they collect data, whether legally or illegally, and use it to increase sales or fuck over competitors. They don’t work together in a coordinated way to help a particular government work an agenda.

    All Chinese corps that work internationally are compelled to work for the party. If that means allowing access to customer data or actively collecting certain types of data then they do it. This means it’s possible to correlate massive amounts of data from many sources in a way that is not feasible for western governments.

    Consider, what if China wanted to know where the PM was at any point in time, anywhere in the world? They have access to data collected by every Chinese phone app and every Chinese EV. They could start by identifying the devices owned by the PM’s staff or friends via TikTok, WeChat, Aliexpress, Temu, or a car’s user profile. A lot of users just click “allow all” which gives the app access to contacts, browsing data, etc.

    From there they could identify the PM’s devices, even if they have no Chinese software on them, by correlating the mac addresses of devices and their location. If he makes a public appearance and several identified people are seen with him then it gets even easier. Once the PM’s devices’ mac addresses are identified they can be tracked anytime they, or his staff, get within 100 feet of a BYD car or phone running a Chinese app (where the user enabled all privileges).


  • Chinese businesses don’t get the loans they need to grow if they are not 100% inline with the party. BYD may not be a genocidal slave owner but they will support China’s decisions every step of the way.

    They really did a min-maxed speedrun of capitalism. The rich get to be rich, the government gets to imprison, enslave, and execute anyone who doesn’t support them, and that let them undercut all the existing big names in manufacturing. I would bet that there is a Chinese manufactured part in every home in the world that also has electricity and plumbing.




  • What data though? With thousands of cars that can connect to cell networks, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, and gps you get a fleet of war drivers.

    By corrilating times, locations and mac addresses it would be trivial to find and track individuals using their personal devices.

    Yes any government COULD do this but there would be loads of red tape and negotiating with manufactures. Chinese manufactures have no choice, they ship surveillance software when they are told to or they don’t get to sell internationally.